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<blockquote data-quote="bert1000" data-source="post: 4760213" data-attributes="member: 29013">&nbsp;This is my biggest gripe about many published skill challenges (besides the mechanics but that is taken care of by Obsidian) -- the penalty for failure is often an appropriate level fight that earns you more experience than beating the skill challenge!&nbsp; Bad design.&nbsp; Combat vs. no-combat is often a poor choice for the outcome of a skill challenge.&nbsp; Here's some suggestions:&nbsp;*Benefits/penalties to an upcoming fight as a result of the skill challenge is ok. * Ignoring the suggested XP amounts and just make the skill challenge equal more XP than the fight avoided is also ok I think* Giving no XP for fights that result from a failed skill challenge might be ok too, but would require a different XP paradigm agreed to by players and DM</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bert1000, post: 4760213, member: 29013"] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana]This is my biggest gripe about many published skill challenges (besides the mechanics but that is taken care of by Obsidian) -- the penalty for failure is often an appropriate level fight that earns you more experience than beating the skill challenge! Bad design. Combat vs. no-combat is often a poor choice for the outcome of a skill challenge. Here's some suggestions:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana]*Benefits/penalties to an upcoming fight as a result of the skill challenge is ok. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana]* Ignoring the suggested XP amounts and just make the skill challenge equal more XP than the fight avoided is also ok I think[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Verdana]* Giving no XP for fights that result from a failed skill challenge might be ok too, but would require a different XP paradigm agreed to by players and DM[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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