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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7298384" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Thanks!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I approve of your scale.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am aware they increased the damage from EEPC, but that just makes it worse. I would never reserve an 8th level slot for merely 29% more damage than I could get out of an upcast Fireball. This spell is a travesty, and the so-called tweak just adds insult to injury. </p><p></p><p>Your rating is spot on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah.</p><p></p><p>I see all the Concentration spells and just ask myself - do we really need them, when there still is no way to maintain concentration on more than one spell. (The answer is no)</p><p></p><p>It just seems so tragic, the waste of space, seeing rating after rating go "...if it weren't for Concentration..." Sigh.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure I agree. About your reasoning, that is - your rating is probably fair.</p><p></p><p>If you evaluate this without the transfer ability, then what would your rating be? (Not too generous, I'd assume, seeing it would require the wizard to come uncomfortably close to the monsters, and yes, that'd be plural or you'd be wasting the spell potential)</p><p></p><p>Reason I'm asking is that using the dragon breath requires one's action. This means that after level 4 it's a waste to put this on a frontliner, simply because the spell's net worth is 3d6 minus two regular attacks. That makes the spell relatively niche (it would still have its uses if the monsters are resistant to physical attacks or if there are lots of puny critters).</p><p></p><p>To be a spell that actually increases your net damage output (and thus gain a 1 rating) it should work like grapple (replace an attack, not the whole action), use up the bonus attack, or at the very least, transfer Concentration away from you the caster.</p><p></p><p>So you see I'm not really contesting your rating. I just think your writeup is a teeny bit too positive... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7298384, member: 12731"] Thanks! I approve of your scale. I am aware they increased the damage from EEPC, but that just makes it worse. I would never reserve an 8th level slot for merely 29% more damage than I could get out of an upcast Fireball. This spell is a travesty, and the so-called tweak just adds insult to injury. Your rating is spot on. Yeah. I see all the Concentration spells and just ask myself - do we really need them, when there still is no way to maintain concentration on more than one spell. (The answer is no) It just seems so tragic, the waste of space, seeing rating after rating go "...if it weren't for Concentration..." Sigh. I'm not sure I agree. About your reasoning, that is - your rating is probably fair. If you evaluate this without the transfer ability, then what would your rating be? (Not too generous, I'd assume, seeing it would require the wizard to come uncomfortably close to the monsters, and yes, that'd be plural or you'd be wasting the spell potential) Reason I'm asking is that using the dragon breath requires one's action. This means that after level 4 it's a waste to put this on a frontliner, simply because the spell's net worth is 3d6 minus two regular attacks. That makes the spell relatively niche (it would still have its uses if the monsters are resistant to physical attacks or if there are lots of puny critters). To be a spell that actually increases your net damage output (and thus gain a 1 rating) it should work like grapple (replace an attack, not the whole action), use up the bonus attack, or at the very least, transfer Concentration away from you the caster. So you see I'm not really contesting your rating. I just think your writeup is a teeny bit too positive... :) [/QUOTE]
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