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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 7298830" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Nope, this works by RAW as well as RAI. You're overlooking a key clause of both <em>infernal calling</em> and <em>summon greater demon</em>. This clause is normally a hazard for the summoner, but in this case it works in the summoner's favor.</p><p></p><p>Each round, a summoned demon gets a Charisma save to break free of your control. In 600 rounds, the demon is almost certain to make its save. If you stop concentrating early, an uncontrolled demon sticks around for an extra 1d6 rounds. So if you stop concentrating one round early, the duration of <em>summon greater demon</em> is actually 1 hour + (1d6-1) rounds. That means you have a 5/6 chance to bind it successfully before it goes poof.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, a devil summoned by <em>infernal calling</em> has a chance to break your influence each time you command it. Once it succeeds, it gets 3d6 bonus minutes after your concentration ends, and that time can be exploited to finish a <em>planar binding.</em> (Of course, powerful devils are fairly bright. It may guess what you're up to, and deliberately refuse to fight your commands so that you never get the bonus minutes. In that case, give it the most extravagant orders you can think of.)</p><p></p><p>Of course, this does mean that <em>magic circle</em> is non-optional. An escaped devil or demon isn't going to stick around while you finish binding it. You also have to upcast it with a 4th-level slot, or the <em>circle</em>'s duration will expire while you're still casting <em>planar binding</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 7298830, member: 58197"] Nope, this works by RAW as well as RAI. You're overlooking a key clause of both [I]infernal calling[/I] and [I]summon greater demon[/I]. This clause is normally a hazard for the summoner, but in this case it works in the summoner's favor. Each round, a summoned demon gets a Charisma save to break free of your control. In 600 rounds, the demon is almost certain to make its save. If you stop concentrating early, an uncontrolled demon sticks around for an extra 1d6 rounds. So if you stop concentrating one round early, the duration of [i]summon greater demon[/i] is actually 1 hour + (1d6-1) rounds. That means you have a 5/6 chance to bind it successfully before it goes poof. Likewise, a devil summoned by [I]infernal calling[/I] has a chance to break your influence each time you command it. Once it succeeds, it gets 3d6 bonus minutes after your concentration ends, and that time can be exploited to finish a [I]planar binding.[/I] (Of course, powerful devils are fairly bright. It may guess what you're up to, and deliberately refuse to fight your commands so that you never get the bonus minutes. In that case, give it the most extravagant orders you can think of.) Of course, this does mean that [I]magic circle[/I] is non-optional. An escaped devil or demon isn't going to stick around while you finish binding it. You also have to upcast it with a 4th-level slot, or the [I]circle[/I]'s duration will expire while you're still casting [I]planar binding[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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