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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Keeper of Secrets" data-source="post: 1474223" data-attributes="member: 13836">I think that Richard Tucholka tried really hard with a game that was light years ahead of itself when it was put out back in the early 80's.  But the marketing was terrible for it.  For such a brilliant idea that the game was I think there were some fatal flaws - such as an overly complicated combat system.I remember him telling me a few years ago that the Magic cards crushed an already hurting fringe gaming group (games other than TSR, Chaosium, etc.)I really hope that B13 can make something of a come back because people would probably really enjoy it.  The problem is that with d20 Modern, Richard may have missed the boat.</blockquote>