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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 2244217" data-attributes="member: 30001">That's the way I run it.  And that's why I don't put too much stock in the Ethereal plane connection that ghosts have.  It's like trying to deduce the nature of life by the way a ghoul behaves.  IMO Undead's attributes probably come from their evil natures and will to exist, moreso than the nature of death and the afterlife. It's like that movie "Shocker" where the guy gets the electric chair and comes back as a ghost with an "electric" template.  In that case, the electricity is powering his undead status.  IMC normal ghosts use the Ethereal Plane in the same way - it's a source of energy and being co-existent with the Prime Material, it's accessible at the time of death.</blockquote>