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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2762141" data-attributes="member: 2011">Yes, they typically do not.If there were a rule that stated &quot;If an action changes from a standard action or move action to a free action due to a feat, spell, or special ability, and the original action provoked, then the new free action does not provoke&quot;, then you would be correct.There is no such rule.Using other feats that explicitly call out that a given free action still provokes is not a rule.You just have to (as Hyp is prone to do) ask yourself the following questions:1) Does Standing From Prone provoke? Yes2) Do all free actions not provoke? No3) Does the Prone Attack feat remove the provoking restriction explicitly? NoIf the answer to #2 or #3 were yes, then it would act as you propose.What you are doing is pulling together a series of different feats and using them to support a position that is not explicitly supportable. But, there isn't a single rule that supports your position. The rule we have is that Standing From Prone provokes. You do not get a benefit from a feat unless the rules say so.The rules do not say that free actions do not provoke.The fact is that a free action may or may not provoke. Changing something to a free action from a move action does not do ANYTHING except change it to a free action.For example, you cannot use Prone Attack to do an AoO and then stand up during the AoO. It is a free action, not an immediate action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2762141, member: 2011"] Yes, they typically do not. If there were a rule that stated "If an action changes from a standard action or move action to a free action due to a feat, spell, or special ability, and the original action provoked, then the new free action does not provoke", then you would be correct. There is no such rule. Using other feats that explicitly call out that a given free action still provokes is not a rule. You just have to (as Hyp is prone to do) ask yourself the following questions: 1) Does Standing From Prone provoke? Yes 2) Do all free actions not provoke? No 3) Does the Prone Attack feat remove the provoking restriction explicitly? No If the answer to #2 or #3 were yes, then it would act as you propose. What you are doing is pulling together a series of different feats and using them to support a position that is not explicitly supportable. But, there isn't a single rule that supports your position. The rule we have is that Standing From Prone provokes. You do not get a benefit from a feat unless the rules say so. The rules do not say that free actions do not provoke. The fact is that a free action may or may not provoke. Changing something to a free action from a move action does not do ANYTHING except change it to a free action. For example, you cannot use Prone Attack to do an AoO and then stand up during the AoO. It is a free action, not an immediate action. [/QUOTE]

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