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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 9565787" data-attributes="member: 3887">Agreed. I think it's one of the finest hours of television drama.Do you mean the new movie (again, haven't watched it yet) or Section 31 in general?I like the idea of Section 31. Even utopias can use a morally suspect intelligence outfit. For example, Iain Banks's Culture, which is the reigning ne plus ultra of interstellar utopias, birthplace of fully automated luxury space communism, has Special Circumstances. And SC employs people like Cheradenine Zakalwe and the nicest thing you can say about him is he's a delusional war criminal.I guess your reaction to Section 31 depends on how much you view Star Trek as a political allegory. Or what kind. For me, iIf Trek is going to work as examination of Western liberal values and power then it needs to look at the less aspirational, less idealistic, more realpolitik aspects, too. For example, a Space CIA.I mostly agree about DISCO season 1, though watching Jason Isaacs was fun, and it did turn out he was playing a Mirror Universe ex-pat.I strongly disagee about DISCO season 2. It was Star Trek as brash melodramatic timey-whimy space opera where everyone unites at the end to face a common foe and a heroic (and beautifully rendered) joint sacrifice. Something between Moffat-era Dr. Who and Dan Simmon's Hyperion Cantos. Plus it introduced Anson Mount's Pike. What did you find cynical about it?Same with Picard season 1. I thought it was a fantastic expression of Star Trek's values. The Federation finally comes to not only accept, but defend the validity and sanctity of machine life as life. All parties choose hope, to risk coexistence. Underscoring this is the unfolding tragedy of the Romulan Star Empire, who keep choosing fear and paranoia and millions of extra dead because they blew up a relief flotilla their adversaries were building to help them. I admit, I also loved the idea the Federation had material limits; post-scarcity only goes so far.But I do think TOS gets it right about the human condition.</blockquote>

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