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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 9565877"><p>I don't know. I go to franchises like Babylon 5 for that. It isn't like they didn't have plot lines like this in the past (TNG had a whole seasonal arc about corruption). But I think those plots generally have been weaker when they have appeared in Star Trek. That doesn't mean you can't have conflict or nuance, but I do think Star Trek doesn't work as well when it is trying to be something like the Walking Dead. To me that is like Mr. Rogers putting out a rap album. Nothing wrong with rap. Nothing wrong with Mr. Rogers. But they don't fit. Also so much of this stuff feels kind of lazy and old hat at this point. Maybe twenty years ago a show that took a more cynical look at the federation would have been surprising. But every show now inverts that kind of trope (the hero is really the bad guy, the ideal you believed in was a lie, etc). </p><p></p><p>I have to admit I like my Star Trek to be on the slow, space hotel side. What I always liked about the show was a lot the gripping moments revolved around diplomacy and conversations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 9565877"] I don't know. I go to franchises like Babylon 5 for that. It isn't like they didn't have plot lines like this in the past (TNG had a whole seasonal arc about corruption). But I think those plots generally have been weaker when they have appeared in Star Trek. That doesn't mean you can't have conflict or nuance, but I do think Star Trek doesn't work as well when it is trying to be something like the Walking Dead. To me that is like Mr. Rogers putting out a rap album. Nothing wrong with rap. Nothing wrong with Mr. Rogers. But they don't fit. Also so much of this stuff feels kind of lazy and old hat at this point. Maybe twenty years ago a show that took a more cynical look at the federation would have been surprising. But every show now inverts that kind of trope (the hero is really the bad guy, the ideal you believed in was a lie, etc). I have to admit I like my Star Trek to be on the slow, space hotel side. What I always liked about the show was a lot the gripping moments revolved around diplomacy and conversations. [/QUOTE]
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