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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2265876" data-attributes="member: 4275">From what I have heard Ron Moore say, they ordered a second 13 episode season, not a full season.Moore thinks that's a good thing btw, more time to polish the writing, like you would see on an HBO show. I still think BSG would be lucky to hit 100 episodes, and I dont think the conversation of whether or not it has "out trekked" trek or should be used as the template for the future of trek, until we know where the show stands 5 years from now.It *IS* possible, as good as BSG is (and again I am a fan of both trek and BSG, so this isn't an us vs. them thing for me) that it will peter out. Few things compare to trek in terms of longevity, which is why I think current reboot talks are WAY premature.I disagree. The die-hard BSG fans were hostile to BSG, but they were a small percentage of the total audience.On the other hand, those of us who wanted to know why Enterprise looked more advanced than the ships that came after it in trek lore, who wanted to know why the Klingons had ridges, then didnt, then had them again, who wanted to know why the Vulcans didnt act like... Vulcans, we were a LARGE part of Enterprise's audienceI also hasten to add that Manny Coto answered all those questions in spades, knocking them out of the park. THAT attitude would have won over fans quickly, just as BSG's approach won over a lot of fans quickly.But Bermaga's approach in the early days of the show was to turn a deaf ear to fan questions and complaints, then when the ratings went down, BLAME the fans for not supporting their vision.In short, I don't think there's many similarities at all between Enterprise and BSG. One took a large audience and alienated it, the other took an alienated audience and built it into a much larger following.I agree with these statements, but I dont think Enteprise and BSG have anything in common, as you yourself illustrate. Put simply, BSG had a creative vision which slowly won over fans. Ent had no vision for three years, except to continue a profitable franchise, and that never works.Bermaga call it franchise fatigue, but it wasnt the franchise that tired, it was THEM.And like most trek fans, I encourage Bermaga to take a long break from their fatigue.Chuck</blockquote>

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