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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 9724264" data-attributes="member: 57112"><p>We're almost through the first three seasons of our re-watch (we never made it past season 4 our first try through, mostly because my wife was spoiled on what happens to Jadzia and got so upset she crashed out; she's committed to getting over it this time around). Some scattered thoughts:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">We both have been enjoying a lot of the universally regarded aggressively bad episodes. Run Along Home is a personal favorite of ours. They really lean into the goofy and camp in a way that I don't think TNG gets away with nearly as well.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Speaking of "goofy" and "camp" I would like a dozen more episodes in the mirror universe please. The cast is having so much fun that it's absolutely infectious. Garak being paradoxically the most boring mirror character is (a) most certainly intentional and (b) genius. Avery Brooks having so much fun playing regular Sisko having so much fun playing mirror Sisko is like campception. 10/10, no notes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I love Julian Bashir, which is often but not always about how much I love to hate Julian Bashir. His early insufferability is ironically one of his most endearing traits. Lowkey one of the funniest moments in the show so far is when everyone is complaining about the obnoxious self-aggrandizing terraformer and Bashir walks up grinning like "what a fascinating individual!" It's beautiful, 10/10, no notes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Quark episodes almost universally rule. Our favorites so far is when Quark gets to speedrun the plot of <em>Casablanca </em>and one of the most recent ones we've seen so far, where Quark saves himself and the Grand Nagus from being made benevolent by the prophets through the ancient art of annoying the crap out of them.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sisko: "You're investigating Quark?"<br /> Odo: "...I always investigate Quark."<br /> 10/10, no notes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Not only is Keiko fine but she could honestly do <em>way </em>better than Miles. And I <em>like </em>Miles! Molly is also the most adorable.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Speaking of character development, I feel the one that has gotten the least so far Jadzia, which honestly makes at least some sense. She's lived <s>seven</s> eight lifetimes! That's a lot of arcs to complete!</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I love Lwaxana so damn much, it's so incredible she gets to be an obvious comic relief most of the time <em>but also </em>have these incredibly deep moments of emotional vulnerability makes her probably one of my favorite recurring Star Trek characters. Sisko being entirely over this crap during the party he throws while the Lwaxana is projecting love pheremones or whatever is priceless. Also, nobody has ever gone harder with any line ever than Lwaxana dropping "I can swim." An absolute icon.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Vedek Winn and Gul Dukat both make such excellent villains because they are both so frustratingly <em>real</em>. We know people like this. Historically and contemporaneously. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Speaking of Gul Dukat, the Riker episode is brilliant and the reason why has absolutely nothing to do with Riker himself. The politically situation on Cardassia is easily one of the most interesting (and consequential) undercurrents on the show and I don't see that changing in any way.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 9724264, member: 57112"] We're almost through the first three seasons of our re-watch (we never made it past season 4 our first try through, mostly because my wife was spoiled on what happens to Jadzia and got so upset she crashed out; she's committed to getting over it this time around). Some scattered thoughts: [LIST] [*]We both have been enjoying a lot of the universally regarded aggressively bad episodes. Run Along Home is a personal favorite of ours. They really lean into the goofy and camp in a way that I don't think TNG gets away with nearly as well. [*]Speaking of "goofy" and "camp" I would like a dozen more episodes in the mirror universe please. The cast is having so much fun that it's absolutely infectious. Garak being paradoxically the most boring mirror character is (a) most certainly intentional and (b) genius. Avery Brooks having so much fun playing regular Sisko having so much fun playing mirror Sisko is like campception. 10/10, no notes. [*]I love Julian Bashir, which is often but not always about how much I love to hate Julian Bashir. His early insufferability is ironically one of his most endearing traits. Lowkey one of the funniest moments in the show so far is when everyone is complaining about the obnoxious self-aggrandizing terraformer and Bashir walks up grinning like "what a fascinating individual!" It's beautiful, 10/10, no notes. [*]Quark episodes almost universally rule. Our favorites so far is when Quark gets to speedrun the plot of [I]Casablanca [/I]and one of the most recent ones we've seen so far, where Quark saves himself and the Grand Nagus from being made benevolent by the prophets through the ancient art of annoying the crap out of them. [*]Sisko: "You're investigating Quark?" Odo: "...I always investigate Quark." 10/10, no notes. [*]Not only is Keiko fine but she could honestly do [I]way [/I]better than Miles. And I [I]like [/I]Miles! Molly is also the most adorable. [*]Speaking of character development, I feel the one that has gotten the least so far Jadzia, which honestly makes at least some sense. She's lived [S]seven[/S] eight lifetimes! That's a lot of arcs to complete! [*]I love Lwaxana so damn much, it's so incredible she gets to be an obvious comic relief most of the time [I]but also [/I]have these incredibly deep moments of emotional vulnerability makes her probably one of my favorite recurring Star Trek characters. Sisko being entirely over this crap during the party he throws while the Lwaxana is projecting love pheremones or whatever is priceless. Also, nobody has ever gone harder with any line ever than Lwaxana dropping "I can swim." An absolute icon. [*]Vedek Winn and Gul Dukat both make such excellent villains because they are both so frustratingly [I]real[/I]. We know people like this. Historically and contemporaneously. [*]Speaking of Gul Dukat, the Riker episode is brilliant and the reason why has absolutely nothing to do with Riker himself. The politically situation on Cardassia is easily one of the most interesting (and consequential) undercurrents on the show and I don't see that changing in any way. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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