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<blockquote data-quote="Hex08" data-source="post: 8537115" data-attributes="member: 7029595"><p>I have to agree with you for the most part. Other than Anson Mount in season two Discovery was bad Star Trek, at least up through the end of season three (although I think it was decent sci-fi). At that point I stopped watching so I can't speak to season four. I feel like they realized the mistakes of season one and tried to turn it around but generally failed. The final straw for me was that a child screaming was revealed to be the cause of <a href="https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Burn" target="_blank">The Burn</a> - just so, so amazingly bad.</p><p></p><p>But as far as the best captains go, I grew up with Kirk so he will always be my favorite. Archer and Sisko are the only ones who had real character arcs with growth and change during their shows so that sets them apart from all of the others. Individually though, each were a reflection of their time and circumstances so it's difficult to say one was better than the other in most cases. Archer and Kirk were more fly by the seat of your pants because humanity in space was still relatively new so a more "wild frontier" attitude was necessary. Picard was more of a diplomat during a time when the Federation was a more established and mature organization. Sisko is unique because of his relationship with Bejor and turned out to be an excellent, if sometimes ethically gray, wartime captain. Janeway was a scientist thrust into her position, but her science background also worked in her favor considering the position Voyager was in. Then we come to Burnham, who never should have been promoted. Here is one of the many issues I have with Discovery, as a character she did nothing to earn her rank and should have been dismissed from service; she was constantly insubordinate but never faced any real consequences for her actions. Maybe she is a better character in season four, but she still had a lot of redemption ahead of her before she should have been allowed in any command position.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hex08, post: 8537115, member: 7029595"] I have to agree with you for the most part. Other than Anson Mount in season two Discovery was bad Star Trek, at least up through the end of season three (although I think it was decent sci-fi). At that point I stopped watching so I can't speak to season four. I feel like they realized the mistakes of season one and tried to turn it around but generally failed. The final straw for me was that a child screaming was revealed to be the cause of [URL='https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Burn']The Burn[/URL] - just so, so amazingly bad. But as far as the best captains go, I grew up with Kirk so he will always be my favorite. Archer and Sisko are the only ones who had real character arcs with growth and change during their shows so that sets them apart from all of the others. Individually though, each were a reflection of their time and circumstances so it's difficult to say one was better than the other in most cases. Archer and Kirk were more fly by the seat of your pants because humanity in space was still relatively new so a more "wild frontier" attitude was necessary. Picard was more of a diplomat during a time when the Federation was a more established and mature organization. Sisko is unique because of his relationship with Bejor and turned out to be an excellent, if sometimes ethically gray, wartime captain. Janeway was a scientist thrust into her position, but her science background also worked in her favor considering the position Voyager was in. Then we come to Burnham, who never should have been promoted. Here is one of the many issues I have with Discovery, as a character she did nothing to earn her rank and should have been dismissed from service; she was constantly insubordinate but never faced any real consequences for her actions. Maybe she is a better character in season four, but she still had a lot of redemption ahead of her before she should have been allowed in any command position. [/QUOTE]
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