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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8660234" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Its not a question of Prime Directive, its a basic tenant of diplomacy. You don't go into another culture that your trying to be on good terms with and start telling them that their garbage...that's just not a great idea.</p><p></p><p>She refused to tell him because her people's directives forbade her to do so....until she made the effort to finally get him access, to literally show him the process and explain it. That said, I do agree its never the best idea to just show someone a child murder stone cold, you have to a LEAST do a little warming up to the concept....explain the terrible danger on the planet, this is the only way to stop it, we have tried other ways, etc etc. you start with that before showing the child corpse. Realistically a smart diplomatic core would have never done it, they might have explained the process to him, but they would never have taken him into the chamber....ESPECIALLY before the ceremony finished.</p><p></p><p>I disagree that this is the only way to have drama....or if drama is even really the goal. The drama has already been spent, we had a mystery, and then the big reveal....the twist! Now its time for the philosophical side of star trek, what "learning to work with completely alien cultures" actually means. I don't mind that Pike ultimately has a problem with their culture, I would have been fine if the episode ends with him doing a personal log and talk about how as a starfleet officer he is supposed to be open minded and understanding but this time he just can't see it, aka let him wrestle with the idea. My issue was there wasn't even really a notion of debating or wrestling with the issue, Pike heard the answer, effectively said, "f*** you, you suck" and then beamed out. He was judge and jury for the audience, this culture = bad....no discussion. That's why it fell so flat to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8660234, member: 5889"] Its not a question of Prime Directive, its a basic tenant of diplomacy. You don't go into another culture that your trying to be on good terms with and start telling them that their garbage...that's just not a great idea. She refused to tell him because her people's directives forbade her to do so....until she made the effort to finally get him access, to literally show him the process and explain it. That said, I do agree its never the best idea to just show someone a child murder stone cold, you have to a LEAST do a little warming up to the concept....explain the terrible danger on the planet, this is the only way to stop it, we have tried other ways, etc etc. you start with that before showing the child corpse. Realistically a smart diplomatic core would have never done it, they might have explained the process to him, but they would never have taken him into the chamber....ESPECIALLY before the ceremony finished. I disagree that this is the only way to have drama....or if drama is even really the goal. The drama has already been spent, we had a mystery, and then the big reveal....the twist! Now its time for the philosophical side of star trek, what "learning to work with completely alien cultures" actually means. I don't mind that Pike ultimately has a problem with their culture, I would have been fine if the episode ends with him doing a personal log and talk about how as a starfleet officer he is supposed to be open minded and understanding but this time he just can't see it, aka let him wrestle with the idea. My issue was there wasn't even really a notion of debating or wrestling with the issue, Pike heard the answer, effectively said, "f*** you, you suck" and then beamed out. He was judge and jury for the audience, this culture = bad....no discussion. That's why it fell so flat to me. [/QUOTE]
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