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<blockquote data-quote="s/LaSH" data-source="post: 1271334" data-attributes="member: 6929"><p>Good on ya mate. Revel in your nerdity. Join us. Hhhh... hhh...</p><p></p><p>I'd imagine that a full fleet of SDDs would be pretty nasty, indeed. <em>Especially</em> if they had an SSD with them, which is officially longer than B5 itself and well-shielded. (Just how long is unknown; argument persists over the ratio between SSDs and SDDs, and furthermore, the length of the original SDDs is unknown, put at either 1 or 6 miles; in the latter case, the SDD exceeds B5's 5 mile length and dwarfs everything Starfleet or the B5 universe can offer, while the SSD can be argued at over 100km in length.)</p><p></p><p>But it is called 'Star Wars' for a reason - the military tech is expected to be better. They also don't suffer any of the unfortunate slowness of Trek warp drive - hopping around the Star Wars galaxy takes weeks if not days, so response time in the comparatively tiny regions of the Federation and B5 known space would be practically immeasurable. I don't know how Imperial interdictor-class SDDs would work on B5 and Trek FTL drives; I suspect they'd be able to force warp drive offline, but B5's hyperspace shows no signs of limitation in gravity wells (see the Titan incident, where they jumped from within Jupiter's atmosphere) so would probably remain uninterdicted.</p><p></p><p>I'm now going to do an amateur comparison, picking out a few elements which I think would make good benchmarks.</p><p></p><p>Weapons comparison? B5 and SW beams are capable of orbital bombardment (in the cases of the siege of Centauri Prime, and an incident involving Grand Admiral Thrawn), while Trek vessels generally aren't (notable exception: torpedoes seem to have both the range and the cohesion to get through planetary atmosphere, as seen in First Contact, although these were superior Borg weapons). I'd give the total firepower advantage to SW, because of all the fire a star destroyer can punch out in all directions, but the sustained firepower advantage to B5, because of the axial cannons. Trek, by comparison, is either really wussy or just likes to engage at stupidly close range (I can never recall an episode of Voyager when they fired phasers at planetary targets without first passing through an unnaturally dense and turbulent cloud layer, and <em>Intrepid</em>-class vessels are (or were, 7 years before their return, which is no time in technological advancement) pretty top-of-the-line for the Feds).</p><p></p><p>Defensive comparison? B5 has no shields. Shields can exist (see Thirdspace), but they don't have them. Instead, they rely on armour (self-regenerating bioarmour in the case of the advanced White Star fleet). The armour seems to hold up pretty well against the weapons of the setting, which we've established are probably the most powerful of the three settings. Star Wars has shields, but their effectiveness is limited - everyone knows that you aim for the generators on a star destroyer first, which indicates it's quite easy to punch through them. Star Trek has the best shields, which can take a few hits from their inferior weapons. Overall, I'd say that Trek and B5 have the best endurance in a fight.</p><p></p><p>Is this accurate? Who knows, but it's fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="s/LaSH, post: 1271334, member: 6929"] Good on ya mate. Revel in your nerdity. Join us. Hhhh... hhh... I'd imagine that a full fleet of SDDs would be pretty nasty, indeed. [i]Especially[/i] if they had an SSD with them, which is officially longer than B5 itself and well-shielded. (Just how long is unknown; argument persists over the ratio between SSDs and SDDs, and furthermore, the length of the original SDDs is unknown, put at either 1 or 6 miles; in the latter case, the SDD exceeds B5's 5 mile length and dwarfs everything Starfleet or the B5 universe can offer, while the SSD can be argued at over 100km in length.) But it is called 'Star Wars' for a reason - the military tech is expected to be better. They also don't suffer any of the unfortunate slowness of Trek warp drive - hopping around the Star Wars galaxy takes weeks if not days, so response time in the comparatively tiny regions of the Federation and B5 known space would be practically immeasurable. I don't know how Imperial interdictor-class SDDs would work on B5 and Trek FTL drives; I suspect they'd be able to force warp drive offline, but B5's hyperspace shows no signs of limitation in gravity wells (see the Titan incident, where they jumped from within Jupiter's atmosphere) so would probably remain uninterdicted. I'm now going to do an amateur comparison, picking out a few elements which I think would make good benchmarks. Weapons comparison? B5 and SW beams are capable of orbital bombardment (in the cases of the siege of Centauri Prime, and an incident involving Grand Admiral Thrawn), while Trek vessels generally aren't (notable exception: torpedoes seem to have both the range and the cohesion to get through planetary atmosphere, as seen in First Contact, although these were superior Borg weapons). I'd give the total firepower advantage to SW, because of all the fire a star destroyer can punch out in all directions, but the sustained firepower advantage to B5, because of the axial cannons. Trek, by comparison, is either really wussy or just likes to engage at stupidly close range (I can never recall an episode of Voyager when they fired phasers at planetary targets without first passing through an unnaturally dense and turbulent cloud layer, and [i]Intrepid[/i]-class vessels are (or were, 7 years before their return, which is no time in technological advancement) pretty top-of-the-line for the Feds). Defensive comparison? B5 has no shields. Shields can exist (see Thirdspace), but they don't have them. Instead, they rely on armour (self-regenerating bioarmour in the case of the advanced White Star fleet). The armour seems to hold up pretty well against the weapons of the setting, which we've established are probably the most powerful of the three settings. Star Wars has shields, but their effectiveness is limited - everyone knows that you aim for the generators on a star destroyer first, which indicates it's quite easy to punch through them. Star Trek has the best shields, which can take a few hits from their inferior weapons. Overall, I'd say that Trek and B5 have the best endurance in a fight. Is this accurate? Who knows, but it's fun! [/QUOTE]
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