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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9662656" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think Lonnie Jung might possibly be more of a hero than Luthen at least the way that they concluded each man's story arc (which, I admit I didn't like since I wanted Luthen to end up an unsung hero and not a failed man).  Lonnie Jung seems to be a Cyril like character who really believed in the mission of the New Order only to find out that it wasn't living up to the high standards of its propaganda.  Unlike Cyril who just fell apart, Lonnie appears to kept his cool and worked inside the system to undermine it, and he did so repeatedly in a lot of subtle ways, showing himself probably as the smoothest operator in the Rebel alliance, expertly manipulating his colleagues (even his boss!) while keeping his own hands clean and not raising suspicions about his motives.  He's the master spy in the bunch, excelling Luthen in ability to maintain deep cover and manipulate people.His big flaw is trusting a scum bag like Luthen implicitly, imagining Luthen to be a man like himself when Luthen really just was motivated by hatred and a desire for vengeance.  Lonnie was a good character.  Luthen was a more neutral character (maybe evil by the end of his arc) that just happened to do extraordinary good.  What's most ironic and hateful to me about how they scripted Luthen (which don't get me wrong isn't objective failure but just preference here) is it means that Luthen's big monologue to Lonnie was really just an act, a carefully presented presentation to keep Lonnie on board and convince Lonnie to trust him.  Luthen was largely lying about his own feelings and motivations, or at least casting them in a very positive light that made him seem more noble than he was.   And I guess, I hate that, because I was sold on Luthen by that speech as well, and I hate that I was also manipulated.</blockquote>

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