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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9662714" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Luthen casts himself as a high idealist who is knowingly adopting the methods of his enemy in order to fight them from the shadows. His backstory however doesn't present him as such, but rather as a weak failed soldier who couldn't take it anymore and who latched on to saving a girl as a means of redemption, but who ultimately was never motivated by any more than vengeance for what the Empire had already taken from him. He didn't start in a place of nobility and gradually burn away his good, at least not in the story we are ultimately given (and when telling a story, you always show the most significant events, so if there is something that should change our perception it should have been told instead). He was left a ruined empty shell of a man with no more morals and with nothing left to give before he even started to fight. </p><p></p><p>If Lonnie had known that, he would have never trusted Luthen to do what is right. He would have planned his own escape route and his own way out and not assumed the man could be trusted with the lives of himself and his family. So Luthen gave himself to Lonnie a backstory Lonnie himself could relate to, as an idealist fighting against a corrupt system in the only way possible, but it really was mostly BS. The only sense that Luthen actually meant it was he hoped Kleya would survive to see the new dawn. That was his only attempt at redemption, and nothing else seems to have mattered to him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9662714, member: 4937"] Luthen casts himself as a high idealist who is knowingly adopting the methods of his enemy in order to fight them from the shadows. His backstory however doesn't present him as such, but rather as a weak failed soldier who couldn't take it anymore and who latched on to saving a girl as a means of redemption, but who ultimately was never motivated by any more than vengeance for what the Empire had already taken from him. He didn't start in a place of nobility and gradually burn away his good, at least not in the story we are ultimately given (and when telling a story, you always show the most significant events, so if there is something that should change our perception it should have been told instead). He was left a ruined empty shell of a man with no more morals and with nothing left to give before he even started to fight. If Lonnie had known that, he would have never trusted Luthen to do what is right. He would have planned his own escape route and his own way out and not assumed the man could be trusted with the lives of himself and his family. So Luthen gave himself to Lonnie a backstory Lonnie himself could relate to, as an idealist fighting against a corrupt system in the only way possible, but it really was mostly BS. The only sense that Luthen actually meant it was he hoped Kleya would survive to see the new dawn. That was his only attempt at redemption, and nothing else seems to have mattered to him. [/QUOTE]
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