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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9664681" data-attributes="member: 4937">If anyone is looking at the Jedi as anything but highly flawed fallible people at this point, then they aren't paying attention.  Yoda and Obi Wan are coming off badly by the end of the original trilogy, and the prequels really didn't make it any better. I thought the character of Luthen fit well with a member of the Jedi Academic or Jedi Exploration Corp, the sort of guy who was force sensitive but never strong enough in the force to become a Knight, and whose real gifts were scholarly and in his understanding of people.  Because at this point, the real conclusion is the Jedi are themselves just "ordinary people" who couldn't save the galaxy or even themselves.Except it wasn't really.  The whole point of Cassian's sister was that when Cassian was lost and the sort of person whom you wouldn't have wanted as a friend, because he was a thief, a lying scoundrel, manipulative, and abusive to even his friends and the people who loved him he still had this drive to save people.  And that drive to save people would ultimately become the overwhelming motive in his life, the thing that drove him on and on to his death.  He was always trying to save his sister.  And so in that context, if you watch Andor Season 2 and Rogue One back to back, it hits differently.  When the Guardian of the Whills call Jyn Erso, "Little Sister" it has layers of meaning.</blockquote>