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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9666482" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I think Star Wars has by far the best and most thoughtful depiction of AI in all of entertainment media. I think Star Wars shows that reaching for easy classifications when the thing itself is something novel and with qualities nothing else possesses is a mistake. Is K2-S04 complicit in the Gorman massacre? Well, no, because Droids are always going to be products of their created emotional frameworks and instincts. Ultimately the actions of a piece of property, even one that is in some way self-aware are to be blamed in the majority by the creator that put them together, and only in a much lesser way on the artificial intelligence itself. K2-S04's "impulses" are what they have been constructed to be, and so he's not complicit when he's constructed to murder on behalf of the Empire and not complicit when he's constructed to murder on behalf of the Republic. He's sentient but of a class that exists somewhere between animals and people, belonging to its own thing and requiring its own language that we don't yet really have: "Droid rights" as opposed to "animal rights" or "human rights".</p><p></p><p>So I reject this notion of "slave" as that refers to situation where a peer is made into property through coercion of some sort. That doesn't really apply when discussing droid relationships. </p><p></p><p>I think AI are going to force us to create whole new concepts we've never considered before. ChatGPT for example seems to not understand either the sense of a statement, or the reference of a statement and yet somehow it produces things that seem to be sensible statements that reference real things (most of the time at least). So what third component of language are we missing that is so real that it can create the illusion of sensibility? In the same way, we're going to have to develop a whole new theory of sentience that is qualitative and quantitative, and whole new ideas about what it means to have free will. And this isn't really surprising, because these are concepts that like intelligence we never could clearly describe what we meant by them anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9666482, member: 4937"] I think Star Wars has by far the best and most thoughtful depiction of AI in all of entertainment media. I think Star Wars shows that reaching for easy classifications when the thing itself is something novel and with qualities nothing else possesses is a mistake. Is K2-S04 complicit in the Gorman massacre? Well, no, because Droids are always going to be products of their created emotional frameworks and instincts. Ultimately the actions of a piece of property, even one that is in some way self-aware are to be blamed in the majority by the creator that put them together, and only in a much lesser way on the artificial intelligence itself. K2-S04's "impulses" are what they have been constructed to be, and so he's not complicit when he's constructed to murder on behalf of the Empire and not complicit when he's constructed to murder on behalf of the Republic. He's sentient but of a class that exists somewhere between animals and people, belonging to its own thing and requiring its own language that we don't yet really have: "Droid rights" as opposed to "animal rights" or "human rights". So I reject this notion of "slave" as that refers to situation where a peer is made into property through coercion of some sort. That doesn't really apply when discussing droid relationships. I think AI are going to force us to create whole new concepts we've never considered before. ChatGPT for example seems to not understand either the sense of a statement, or the reference of a statement and yet somehow it produces things that seem to be sensible statements that reference real things (most of the time at least). So what third component of language are we missing that is so real that it can create the illusion of sensibility? In the same way, we're going to have to develop a whole new theory of sentience that is qualitative and quantitative, and whole new ideas about what it means to have free will. And this isn't really surprising, because these are concepts that like intelligence we never could clearly describe what we meant by them anyway. [/QUOTE]
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