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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9666890" data-attributes="member: 4937">What do you mean by "people"?  If you mean "human", then definitely not.  They don't really seem to have human motivations or personalities.    Yes, they have a personality, and decision making, and the ability to operate somewhat independently, and they have a sense of self and yes definitely a mind (but then so does an ant so I'm not sure what having a mind means to you).Shunted?  C3-P0 doesn't seem to think himself shunted into his role as a protocol droid.  Does seem like he's upset about having someone to work for or to do meaningful labor?  That's like claiming your average 18 year old male is "shunted" into a sexual relationship with a pretty attentive female.  Just because you don't want as a human being what C3-P0 wants doesn't mean C3-P0 is somehow tricked or oppressed.  This is a big of failure of imagination and empathy as taking seriously the idea that if you create an intelligent robot it will want to fall in love with a human female and have a romantic relationship with them.  That's not reason talking.  There is no reason to think that a machine would want the same things as a semi-evolved simian nomad.Quite a bit apparently but it's no trickier of a question than asking how much free will we have.  They certainly seem to be able to choose within the framework of their designed emotions and goals, but just like us they seem to have much less control over instinctual drives, needs and desires.</blockquote>

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