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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8789360" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I think that is mostly fair in that I don't feel we have an episode as good as say the best 4 episodes of the Mandalorian. Unfortunately, for me at least, the The Mandalorian wasn't defined by its best 4 episodes any more than the The Last Jedi was defined by its best 2 story beats. The defining moments for me of The Mandalorian were the wretched quality of its worst episodes, such as the season 1 finale. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we are already "hard men making hard decisions" territory. Andor is introduced to us in Rogue One as a guy who murders his informant in order to keep the Empire from knowing what the Rebels know. But I don't think is anywhere near the level of atrocities the Empire commits nor is it an act in service to anything like the cause the Empire stands for. So I don't agree with the moral equivalence. </p><p></p><p>We are introduced to Andor in the show with him again committing a murder. He didn't mean to kill the young officer who hits his head, but the older corrupt officer he has at his mercy and he shoots him. So Andor is definitely not a clear cut good guy. He's not a moral paragon. He's a thief and a murderer, and the fact that the older corrupt officer is a bad guy doesn't change that. But also consider, he has Syril Karn at his mercy and is even told by his superior to kill him, and instead he ties him up. Andor isn't completely ruthless. We're not given the impression he enjoys killing people or that he won't be merciful when he can.</p><p></p><p>So we have a situation where a guy like Syril Karn is a good guy working for the bad guys, and Cassian Andor is a bad guy working for the good guys. We're definitely in complicated territory.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8789360, member: 4937"] I think that is mostly fair in that I don't feel we have an episode as good as say the best 4 episodes of the Mandalorian. Unfortunately, for me at least, the The Mandalorian wasn't defined by its best 4 episodes any more than the The Last Jedi was defined by its best 2 story beats. The defining moments for me of The Mandalorian were the wretched quality of its worst episodes, such as the season 1 finale. I think we are already "hard men making hard decisions" territory. Andor is introduced to us in Rogue One as a guy who murders his informant in order to keep the Empire from knowing what the Rebels know. But I don't think is anywhere near the level of atrocities the Empire commits nor is it an act in service to anything like the cause the Empire stands for. So I don't agree with the moral equivalence. We are introduced to Andor in the show with him again committing a murder. He didn't mean to kill the young officer who hits his head, but the older corrupt officer he has at his mercy and he shoots him. So Andor is definitely not a clear cut good guy. He's not a moral paragon. He's a thief and a murderer, and the fact that the older corrupt officer is a bad guy doesn't change that. But also consider, he has Syril Karn at his mercy and is even told by his superior to kill him, and instead he ties him up. Andor isn't completely ruthless. We're not given the impression he enjoys killing people or that he won't be merciful when he can. So we have a situation where a guy like Syril Karn is a good guy working for the bad guys, and Cassian Andor is a bad guy working for the good guys. We're definitely in complicated territory. [/QUOTE]
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