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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8794422" data-attributes="member: 4937">The clear pattern is the bad guys are incompetent when facing against player characters/protagonists.   And I can work with that.  They are in fact highly competent when facing off against NPCs.  The Storm Troopers absolutely overwhelm Rebel Navy Troopers in the opening scene.  It's not even close in terms of casualties, hit rates, etc.The Massassi group in their X-Wings ("Gold Squadron" and "Red Squadron") are some of the most formidable fighter pilots in the Outer Rim, but when they attack the Death Star, the Tie Fighter pilots hold their own.  There is not in fact a lot of evidence that the kill ratios in those dogfights are much different than 1:1.  The Rebels are getting wiped out.And Rogue One actually fixes the plot hole with the Death Star's vulnerability, which, let's face it isn't that vulnerable since it took Luke spending a force point to actually exploit it.  The Rogue One novelization actually goes into detail how Galen Erso hid the vulnerability from the Empire, and it's really dang clever and exploits realistic vulnerabilities that a centralized fascist bureaucracy would have.Empire Strikes Back has the Empire winning the entire movie, leading to the famous, "Did the bad guys just win?" moment as the lights go on that was so dramatic and revolutionary at the time.  Return of the Jedi repeatedly shows the battle at Endor hanging in the balance with heavy losses on both sides.   Any incompetency can be explained simply, as Luke noted, "Your over confidence is your weakness."  The Empire was being hampered at Endor by the insanity of a megalomaniac sociopath.  In short, the incompetency of the Empire not nearly as bad as the memes make it out to be.   The incompetency tends to be a fridge logic moment, and isn't the experience most first time watchers of the film have or had.  In fact, the first time emotional response tends to be just how frightening and intimidating the Empire seems to be, especially compared to how villains had been portrayed before.This is enough of a difference for me.  I can make a serious game out of the later, but I can't make a serious game out of the first.</blockquote>

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