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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 2812013" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>As Eric's Grandma has pointed out, I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine, but we can still be friends.</p><p></p><p>Nevertheless, I am perpetually bewildered by how people can like the prequels. It's been a while since I've watched the original trilogy, but now I'm going to have to to find out if I'm just crazy, or if George Lucas ever actually was good at directing. Well, there's always American Grafitti.</p><p></p><p>The thing is, the movies are just bad stories. Consider this:</p><p></p><p>Star Wars - A young boy's adoptive parents are killed by the evil empire. He finds a mentor of the ways of ancient warriors, then goes on a journey to rescue a princess and helps a heroic rebellion defeat the empire's doomsday device.</p><p></p><p>The Empire Strikes Back (terrible title, by the way) - As the evil empire seeks to destroy the rebellion, chasing after our young hero's friends, our hero seeks training to become strong enough and wise enough to face and defeat the villain who killed his father. Two of his companions find love, but one is slain by the villain, and when the hero finally confronts his foe, he discovers the man actually is his father, turned to darkness. The tale ends with the friends safe and reunited, but struck with the loss of innocence.</p><p></p><p>Return of the Jedi - The daring heroism of the companions brings their fallen friend back from the , just in time to lead the assault against the evil empire's stronghold. The two lovers and their companions undertake an epic battle against the reborn doomsday device, risking everything in one final conflict. The young hero has his own path, however. He must travel to the dark heart of the emperor himself, and only by redeeming his father can he save himself and his friends.</p><p></p><p>(Well, to be fair, the story would have been better if <em>not</em> redeeming Vader would have lost them the battle, but still, a good story.)</p><p></p><p>Now, we have the original trilogy.</p><p></p><p>The Phantom Menace - A conflict on an planet drives a princess from her homeland. The dark minion of a mysterious villain pursues her. Guarded by two knights, she discovers a young boy with magical powers, who . . . really does nothing useful, except ally save the day. The princess and her knights fight against lukewarm villains and defeat them. The minion is cool, but his defeat has nothing to do with the rest of the plot.</p><p></p><p>Attack of the Clones (even worse title) - Bad guy has crazy convoluted plot to take over galaxy, deceive the young boy, and destroy the good guys. It works, and no one notices.</p><p></p><p>Revenge of the Sith - The young boy finally turns to evil (he should have done this in the last movie), and has a 'born again' type realization that, oh, kids is good. Logic is cast to the winds in favor of special effects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 2812013, member: 63"] As Eric's Grandma has pointed out, I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine, but we can still be friends. Nevertheless, I am perpetually bewildered by how people can like the prequels. It's been a while since I've watched the original trilogy, but now I'm going to have to to find out if I'm just crazy, or if George Lucas ever actually was good at directing. Well, there's always American Grafitti. The thing is, the movies are just bad stories. Consider this: Star Wars - A young boy's adoptive parents are killed by the evil empire. He finds a mentor of the ways of ancient warriors, then goes on a journey to rescue a princess and helps a heroic rebellion defeat the empire's doomsday device. The Empire Strikes Back (terrible title, by the way) - As the evil empire seeks to destroy the rebellion, chasing after our young hero's friends, our hero seeks training to become strong enough and wise enough to face and defeat the villain who killed his father. Two of his companions find love, but one is slain by the villain, and when the hero finally confronts his foe, he discovers the man actually is his father, turned to darkness. The tale ends with the friends safe and reunited, but struck with the loss of innocence. Return of the Jedi - The daring heroism of the companions brings their fallen friend back from the , just in time to lead the assault against the evil empire's stronghold. The two lovers and their companions undertake an epic battle against the reborn doomsday device, risking everything in one final conflict. The young hero has his own path, however. He must travel to the dark heart of the emperor himself, and only by redeeming his father can he save himself and his friends. (Well, to be fair, the story would have been better if [i]not[/i] redeeming Vader would have lost them the battle, but still, a good story.) Now, we have the original trilogy. The Phantom Menace - A conflict on an planet drives a princess from her homeland. The dark minion of a mysterious villain pursues her. Guarded by two knights, she discovers a young boy with magical powers, who . . . really does nothing useful, except ally save the day. The princess and her knights fight against lukewarm villains and defeat them. The minion is cool, but his defeat has nothing to do with the rest of the plot. Attack of the Clones (even worse title) - Bad guy has crazy convoluted plot to take over galaxy, deceive the young boy, and destroy the good guys. It works, and no one notices. Revenge of the Sith - The young boy finally turns to evil (he should have done this in the last movie), and has a 'born again' type realization that, oh, kids is good. Logic is cast to the winds in favor of special effects. [/QUOTE]
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