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<blockquote data-quote="Charwoman Gene" data-source="post: 4860706" data-attributes="member: 5044">I can see your point of view has merit, but I have my rationales.&nbsp; The &quot;Uncanned&quot; Vader suffering only emotional loss?&nbsp; Far more powerful.&nbsp; Canned Vader's machine-body limits his connection to the force. (Keep in mind I'm a &quot;prequel canon&quot;)&nbsp; I will not pursue this further as it is not the OP's canon change.&nbsp; (I'm not even beginning to talk about the PC Jedi's mentor, &quot;Old Cyborg Ben&quot;))For the OP's point... who says the Emperor is a force-user?&nbsp; What if he's just a man, and Vader has personal loyalty to him?&nbsp; What if after failing to defeat the rebels at Yavin, Vader takes the fallout for the loss of the Death Star and is disgraced and drawn out.&nbsp; What if he joined the Rebellion, solely for revenge on the Emperor, maybe trying to subvert it for his own goals.&nbsp; He could then offer training to Luke!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charwoman Gene, post: 4860706, member: 5044"] I can see your point of view has merit, but I have my rationales. The "Uncanned" Vader suffering only emotional loss? Far more powerful. Canned Vader's machine-body limits his connection to the force. (Keep in mind I'm a "prequel canon") I will not pursue this further as it is not the OP's canon change. (I'm not even beginning to talk about the PC Jedi's mentor, "Old Cyborg Ben")) For the OP's point... who says the Emperor is a force-user? What if he's just a man, and Vader has personal loyalty to him? What if after failing to defeat the rebels at Yavin, Vader takes the fallout for the loss of the Death Star and is disgraced and drawn out. What if he joined the Rebellion, solely for revenge on the Emperor, maybe trying to subvert it for his own goals. He could then offer training to Luke! [/QUOTE]

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