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<blockquote data-quote="The Firebird" data-source="post: 9644034" data-attributes="member: 7015803"><p>It could be because I grew up with them. But imo the prequels are fanastic movies, much better than they get credit for.</p><p></p><p>Lucas is just so good at visual storytelling. There's a line from George Miller that I love -- movies are visual music. And the prequels capture that. Think of <a href="https://youtu.be/aWYwKa_PxQA?si=SXw1XRaNAS9b8MV6" target="_blank">this scene</a> from Revenge, really the turning point of whole saga, and it's played beautifully, with no dialogue.</p><p></p><p>And then, I think of mythology, and this idea of universal archetypes and the resampling of old material. Similar ideas, similar motifs occur--think of the universality of the flood story, for example--but they're transposed or reordered or reinterpreted to create something fresh and new. And Lucas is the best at this. It's obvious how he does this on a plot level; the destruction of the trade federation battleship mirrors the death star, the death of Qui-Gon is the death of Obi Wan; but he also does it visually. You've probably seen the compilation of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs" target="_blank">scenes here</a>.</p><p></p><p>This starts with the very first shot of <em>TPM: </em>the camera pans and we see a small ship approaching a large ship, moving from left to right. Compare <em>ANH: </em>we see a small ship fleeing a large ship, moving right to left. See the structure of Palpatine's chamber at the start of <em>Revenge </em>vs <em>Return</em>; the same chair, at the bottom of the stairs in <em>Revenge</em>, atop them in <em>Return.</em> There's certain shots that are identical, like Anakin watching Palpatine's use of force lightning in <em>Revenge </em>and <em>Return. </em></p><p></p><p>All of this is deliberate. (George Miller, incidentally, does exactly the same thing in <em>Furiosa, </em>sampling shots from both the <em>Mad Max</em> saga and world mythology; e.g., he has Achilles dragging Hector's body around the walls of Troy).</p><p></p><p>This amplifies the feeling of inevitability in the prequels, it gives it a kind of weight and heft and universality that speaks to me.</p><p></p><p>The most impressive thing about Lucas, imo, is that he manages this while never feeling derivative. <em>TFA </em>is a less skilled filmmaker trying the same thing, and you see it, and think "this is <em>ANH </em>remix". But from <em>ANH </em>itself Lucas is already just reworking existing material (<em>Hidden Fortress, Flash Gordon, The Good the Bad and the Ugly). </em>In the prequels he continues this--there's material from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Oa3xpGF7-Y" target="_blank">Ben-Hur</a><em>, </em>for example--while simultaneously injecting his own content. But its not just derivative; its an incredibly creative work, even inspiring its own legion of derivatives. He has such a deep and broad knowledge of cinema and he combines all of these influences masterfully.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Firebird, post: 9644034, member: 7015803"] It could be because I grew up with them. But imo the prequels are fanastic movies, much better than they get credit for. Lucas is just so good at visual storytelling. There's a line from George Miller that I love -- movies are visual music. And the prequels capture that. Think of [URL='https://youtu.be/aWYwKa_PxQA?si=SXw1XRaNAS9b8MV6']this scene[/URL] from Revenge, really the turning point of whole saga, and it's played beautifully, with no dialogue. And then, I think of mythology, and this idea of universal archetypes and the resampling of old material. Similar ideas, similar motifs occur--think of the universality of the flood story, for example--but they're transposed or reordered or reinterpreted to create something fresh and new. And Lucas is the best at this. It's obvious how he does this on a plot level; the destruction of the trade federation battleship mirrors the death star, the death of Qui-Gon is the death of Obi Wan; but he also does it visually. You've probably seen the compilation of [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs']scenes here[/URL]. This starts with the very first shot of [I]TPM: [/I]the camera pans and we see a small ship approaching a large ship, moving from left to right. Compare [I]ANH: [/I]we see a small ship fleeing a large ship, moving right to left. See the structure of Palpatine's chamber at the start of [I]Revenge [/I]vs [I]Return[/I]; the same chair, at the bottom of the stairs in [I]Revenge[/I], atop them in [I]Return.[/I] There's certain shots that are identical, like Anakin watching Palpatine's use of force lightning in [I]Revenge [/I]and [I]Return. [/I] All of this is deliberate. (George Miller, incidentally, does exactly the same thing in [I]Furiosa, [/I]sampling shots from both the [I]Mad Max[/I] saga and world mythology; e.g., he has Achilles dragging Hector's body around the walls of Troy). This amplifies the feeling of inevitability in the prequels, it gives it a kind of weight and heft and universality that speaks to me. The most impressive thing about Lucas, imo, is that he manages this while never feeling derivative. [I]TFA [/I]is a less skilled filmmaker trying the same thing, and you see it, and think "this is [I]ANH [/I]remix". But from [I]ANH [/I]itself Lucas is already just reworking existing material ([I]Hidden Fortress, Flash Gordon, The Good the Bad and the Ugly). [/I]In the prequels he continues this--there's material from [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Oa3xpGF7-Y']Ben-Hur[/URL][I], [/I]for example--while simultaneously injecting his own content. But its not just derivative; its an incredibly creative work, even inspiring its own legion of derivatives. He has such a deep and broad knowledge of cinema and he combines all of these influences masterfully. [/QUOTE]
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