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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9644490" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I think the key part is the lack of ambition. Abrams has rarely shown much ambition when directing movies. I think that last time I saw him genuinely seem to have any goals beyond "Make a good movie I guess" was probably Super 8. Certainly not TFA or TRoS.</p><p></p><p>TFA basically wasn't going anywhere. I think the general opinion of the sequels would actually be slightly worse if Abrams had done all three - just worse in a different way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see it at all. There are literally two of his movies which are about that, and they're both very mannered and exaggerated in a way that's distinct from the rest of his movies. Both are also after TLJ.</p><p></p><p>Brick, The Brothers Bloom, Looper, you're trying to tell me they're centered on "thinking about contemporary society" more than any other director? Come on.</p><p></p><p>So to me this seems like backfill/retcon.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I feel like this is massive Gen X-ish projection. There's absolutely nothing in the movie that supports that.</p><p></p><p>The issue is entirely external, and all about the headcanon of older fans, which tended to revolve around EU-ish visions of Luke (either directly or indirectly informed by the EU books). Thus they find deviations from that "antagonistic".</p><p></p><p>The biggest SW fans I know all loved it except one - and he was the only one who had very fixed EU-based ideas about Luke.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9644490, member: 18"] I think the key part is the lack of ambition. Abrams has rarely shown much ambition when directing movies. I think that last time I saw him genuinely seem to have any goals beyond "Make a good movie I guess" was probably Super 8. Certainly not TFA or TRoS. TFA basically wasn't going anywhere. I think the general opinion of the sequels would actually be slightly worse if Abrams had done all three - just worse in a different way. I don't see it at all. There are literally two of his movies which are about that, and they're both very mannered and exaggerated in a way that's distinct from the rest of his movies. Both are also after TLJ. Brick, The Brothers Bloom, Looper, you're trying to tell me they're centered on "thinking about contemporary society" more than any other director? Come on. So to me this seems like backfill/retcon. I feel like this is massive Gen X-ish projection. There's absolutely nothing in the movie that supports that. The issue is entirely external, and all about the headcanon of older fans, which tended to revolve around EU-ish visions of Luke (either directly or indirectly informed by the EU books). Thus they find deviations from that "antagonistic". The biggest SW fans I know all loved it except one - and he was the only one who had very fixed EU-based ideas about Luke. [/QUOTE]
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