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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9644520" data-attributes="member: 18">The key difference to when we were kids is phones and YouTube/TikTok giving people a way to deliver detailed and consistent messaging and ideas, in a convincing and well-produced way to kids without parents knowing (which they're never couching as "political" - that'd be a turn-off, but rather as "here's how the world is, learn from me so you can be strong/clever/powerful"). That's literally why this change has happened (and why it disproportionately impacted one gender), and it's impacting kids younger than 12 where parents are giving them free access to YouTube/TikTok/etc. That said it's much worse in the 14-18 age range, most 12 y/os are probably still likely ignoring Andrew Tate etc. in favour of Minecraft and so on!I don't think he was ambitious in any meaningful sense with them.He just was, by his own admission, not really a Star Trek fan or very interested in Star Trek prior to making the movies, and he just profoundly does not get the Star Trek "vibe". Like I don't think he even knows what a utopian future is! He clearly did some research prior to making the movies and he certainly understood the personalities of the TOS main characters, but overall? Ooof.I don't think he got "undermined" anywhere near as much as people suggest. I mean, Abrams is the one who made Luke a lonely hermit and a failed Jedi master (as established in TFA), not Johnson, but people have consistently acted like it was Johnson.The only thing Abrams was mad about was what was frankly a much better choice than his - to make Rey NOT a Skywalker or other existing famous Jedi lineage. Making her into a Palpatine was an absolute car crash imho, and not even really necessary to the plot of TRoS.I actually think Lucas would have done the same thing as Johnson here, had he made the sequels. The Jedi hero (and there would have been one) would not have been a Skywalker/Palpatine/similar with Lucas I believe, but someone new.</blockquote>

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