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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9644651" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It lined up with the character's motivations and beliefs, so I guess for me it works.</p><p></p><p>I think it's weird that people read it as the overall message of the movie given with was a badguy turning back into badguy mode when he was saying it (after briefly being helpful/decent). Trevorrow's script (which to be clear, <em>overall</em> was just as bad as TRoS) kind of ran with that direction too.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah and for me that's how I read it.</p><p></p><p>But I think what we needed, what we didn't have, and what it really would have been kind of Johnson's job to give us (and which might still be given in some future Filoni cartoon or something) is an insight into what was going on at the Jedi training place at the time this happened.</p><p></p><p>Like, had Luke basically started following Prequel-era Jedi approaches because they seemed to work or something? Or because perhaps a prequel-era survivor(definitely not Ahsoka though!) or force ghost was influencing him? So he got into thinking in bad Prequel-Jedi ways?</p><p></p><p>So I do feel like it was a bit of a leap. Like the lead-up should have been dwelled on more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess I don't see the insulting bit, because Luke didn't do it.</p><p></p><p>Loads of people have had a very bad idea and nearly acted on it. Everyone over the age of about 20, maybe. Luke isn't a saint. He nearly fell to the Dark Side before. But then he didn't. Was that "insulting"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9644651, member: 18"] It lined up with the character's motivations and beliefs, so I guess for me it works. I think it's weird that people read it as the overall message of the movie given with was a badguy turning back into badguy mode when he was saying it (after briefly being helpful/decent). Trevorrow's script (which to be clear, [I]overall[/I] was just as bad as TRoS) kind of ran with that direction too. Yeah and for me that's how I read it. But I think what we needed, what we didn't have, and what it really would have been kind of Johnson's job to give us (and which might still be given in some future Filoni cartoon or something) is an insight into what was going on at the Jedi training place at the time this happened. Like, had Luke basically started following Prequel-era Jedi approaches because they seemed to work or something? Or because perhaps a prequel-era survivor(definitely not Ahsoka though!) or force ghost was influencing him? So he got into thinking in bad Prequel-Jedi ways? So I do feel like it was a bit of a leap. Like the lead-up should have been dwelled on more. I guess I don't see the insulting bit, because Luke didn't do it. Loads of people have had a very bad idea and nearly acted on it. Everyone over the age of about 20, maybe. Luke isn't a saint. He nearly fell to the Dark Side before. But then he didn't. Was that "insulting"? [/QUOTE]
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