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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 7000552" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>I found the CGI main character to be really jarring, for one. That's an aesthetic thing, of course. He was well done as CGI, but uncanny valleyed up when surrounded by live people.</p><p></p><p>Jyn Erso bugged me, and it's taken me awhile to really get down to why. Her motives as a character seemed weirdly fluid to me. At first she's being set up as this jaded, cynical 'rah bah bah, I just want what's for me' kind of person, and that's okay I guess...but then she takes this sharp right-hand turn into being something very different. And yes, the story gives her a sort of cathartic event to propel that shift, but I still found it falling flat for me. Plus, other than a bizarrely abbreviated spat with a guy who's verifiably not responsible for that event...when confronted by a room full of the people who ARE verifiably responsible for it, rather than being upset with them, she tries to rally them and restore their flagging spirits.</p><p></p><p>And yeah, I can rationalize it. I know why, narratively, that arc exists. But it doesn't feel like a real arc. It doesn't feel like it's being true to the character...at least not the character I thought she ought to be. I didn't feel like she had a consistent emotional integrity. </p><p></p><p>There were, additionally, lots of weird little plot moments that weren't exactly HOLES, but seemed to serve no function other than to create meaningless obstacle-like things for the heroes to waste a minute or two correcting on-screen before getting on with things. It happened often enough that I noticed it, which means it was too often. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I feel like they kind of split three or four interesting characters into seven people...making a cast that felt uniformly <em>thin</em>. Each one had like...one, maybe two signature things of note about them...and then we were swept on to the next because even in a 2.5 hour movie, there just wasn't TIME to get to know any of them. The villain was a bumbling bureaucrat. </p><p></p><p>And of course, because it's Star Wars, we have a Jedi. Oh, but not a JEDI Jedi. Just a guy, who uses the Force and does crazy kung-fu, but NOT A JEDI OKAY.</p><p></p><p>I dunno! It just felt...very...forced sometimes? Characters forced to do things that didn't feel natural. Plot events forced to take place even if they don't quite make sense. Star Wars Things forced to be there just to remind everyone, in case they forgot, that yes this is a Star Wars movie.</p><p></p><p>It was a lot of fun while it was happening. I ate my popcorn and liked the action and the music and I didn't think too hard about why Jyn did not one but TWO About-Face-Turns, or why Tarkin didn't just take over right away when he obviously wanted to and could have, or why the Empire has hyperdrive technology but uses what is essentially a really big THE CLAW machine to archive and retrieve data, or why the instrument panel to fix the transmission dish is...like...fifty feet away from the dish on a little platform all on its own... So I loved the movie when it was in progress.</p><p></p><p>And then I started thinking about it. And like a sweater with a thread poking out...pretty soon, all I had left was a really long thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>That probably says more about me than it does the movie, honestly. (^_^)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 7000552, member: 4936"] I found the CGI main character to be really jarring, for one. That's an aesthetic thing, of course. He was well done as CGI, but uncanny valleyed up when surrounded by live people. Jyn Erso bugged me, and it's taken me awhile to really get down to why. Her motives as a character seemed weirdly fluid to me. At first she's being set up as this jaded, cynical 'rah bah bah, I just want what's for me' kind of person, and that's okay I guess...but then she takes this sharp right-hand turn into being something very different. And yes, the story gives her a sort of cathartic event to propel that shift, but I still found it falling flat for me. Plus, other than a bizarrely abbreviated spat with a guy who's verifiably not responsible for that event...when confronted by a room full of the people who ARE verifiably responsible for it, rather than being upset with them, she tries to rally them and restore their flagging spirits. And yeah, I can rationalize it. I know why, narratively, that arc exists. But it doesn't feel like a real arc. It doesn't feel like it's being true to the character...at least not the character I thought she ought to be. I didn't feel like she had a consistent emotional integrity. There were, additionally, lots of weird little plot moments that weren't exactly HOLES, but seemed to serve no function other than to create meaningless obstacle-like things for the heroes to waste a minute or two correcting on-screen before getting on with things. It happened often enough that I noticed it, which means it was too often. :) I feel like they kind of split three or four interesting characters into seven people...making a cast that felt uniformly [i]thin[/i]. Each one had like...one, maybe two signature things of note about them...and then we were swept on to the next because even in a 2.5 hour movie, there just wasn't TIME to get to know any of them. The villain was a bumbling bureaucrat. And of course, because it's Star Wars, we have a Jedi. Oh, but not a JEDI Jedi. Just a guy, who uses the Force and does crazy kung-fu, but NOT A JEDI OKAY. I dunno! It just felt...very...forced sometimes? Characters forced to do things that didn't feel natural. Plot events forced to take place even if they don't quite make sense. Star Wars Things forced to be there just to remind everyone, in case they forgot, that yes this is a Star Wars movie. It was a lot of fun while it was happening. I ate my popcorn and liked the action and the music and I didn't think too hard about why Jyn did not one but TWO About-Face-Turns, or why Tarkin didn't just take over right away when he obviously wanted to and could have, or why the Empire has hyperdrive technology but uses what is essentially a really big THE CLAW machine to archive and retrieve data, or why the instrument panel to fix the transmission dish is...like...fifty feet away from the dish on a little platform all on its own... So I loved the movie when it was in progress. And then I started thinking about it. And like a sweater with a thread poking out...pretty soon, all I had left was a really long thread. :( That probably says more about me than it does the movie, honestly. (^_^) [/QUOTE]
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