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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 4441420" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>I was just revisiting this thread (after having watched the new animated Clone Wars movie) and here's a few more thoughts. For various reasons, I still haven't run this after all, and I've got these ideas still percolating in my head.</p><p></p><p>1) Star Wars Legacy (the Dark Horse comic book series) has done a lot of what I wanted to do very well, so there's no reason not to borrow liberally from them, even though my timeline is sufficiently advanced from theirs that strictly speaking, I don't have to. I especially like the idea of the Fel Dynasty as an Empire Mk. II, less evil and possibly even good, albeit autocratic. The Imperial Knights are a nifty idea too.</p><p></p><p>2) Legacy did <em><strong>exactly</strong></em> what I wanted to do with the Sith Order; abolished the Rule of Two since retrospectively it proved to be disastrous when Darth Vader killed the Emperor and <em>didn't</em> ascend to the position of Sith Master himself and take a new apprentice.</p><p></p><p>Here's a handful of my Force using groups of note:</p><p></p><p>1) Imperial Knights: a militaristic organization that reports directly to the heir of the Empire. As in the Legacy comic books, the Empire is not necessarily evil, although chances are few of us would enjoy living there. Jedi are mistrusted and rare in Imperial space.</p><p></p><p>2) Orthodox Jedi (Gray Marshals): a group of Jedi knights that is obsessed with reconstructing the order as it existed prior to the Jedi purges, and under the same tenets. Much of the data about how things were organized was lost, so this group also crusades throughout the galaxy for any information on how the Jedi were organized and operated during this time. They adamantly (an in fact, often violently) refuse to accept any criticism that the Jedi's organization and operation may indeed have facilitied Anakin's fall and therefore it's own destruction. They see their mandate as imposing peace and order upon the galaxy as much as possible. As with the original Jedi order, often their methods are somewhat questionable and they don't always leave a happy taste in the mouth of those with whom they've dealt.</p><p></p><p>3) Skywalker Jedi : Luke did not start the Jedi order up to be like the Order his father joined. Luke was not <em>dis</em>passionate, he was <em>com</em>passionate, and his order was much more egalitarian, more open-ended in terms of who it accepted as recruits (it had no choice in the early days of recruiting) and refused to accept the dispassionate and exclusive attitudes that Jedi such as Yoda and Obiwan tried to convince Luke to follow, even as late as <em>Return of the Jedi</em>. Luke himself believed those principles were failed and did not inculcate them in his students. Skywalker's Jedi, as they are informally known, and the Gray Marshalls have a rather tense relationship; both believing they are more deserving of the title of Jedi, while the other should consider itself some other tradition entirely. This order is the one most closely associated with the Galactic Alliance/New Republic.</p><p></p><p>4) The Cyborg Order: a group that saw General Grevious and Anakin Skywalker (he who brought balance to the Force, after all) as the ultimate prototype. Eschewing mortal flesh as a weakness, they replace their body parts with cyborg implants and surround themselves with droids. Although many cyborg designs are in vogue, a very popular one closely resembles General Grevious himself, with four arms (to better wield more lightsabers in battle). The detail of Darth Vader's own cybernetic body is lost to time, so many of the Cyborg Order have tried to reconstruct it from the little that is known about it, but interpretations of what Vader looked like vary wildly from individual to individual.</p><p></p><p>5) And, of course, the Sith. Reborn from the ashes of Darth Sidious and Darth Vader's ignominous defeat, the Rule of Two was quickly abandoned. Likely, the first of the new Sith Order was founded by up and coming pupils of Sidious or Dooku, or perhaps by early students of Luke's or subsequent Jedi Masters who found their way to Yavin, Korriban, or other worlds were Sith influence was still strong. Be that as it may, this organization closely matches that of the Legacy comic books (curse them for developing the Sith in almost exactly the same way I was thinking!) including the new Rule of One and a fondness for red and black ritualistic tattooing and scarring a la Darth Maul.</p><p></p><p>6) Others: I really like the ideas of the Reformed Havartians, the Holy Dabobahns or the Jedi Anarchs mentioned earlier in this thread, but I don't have any ideas immediately on how to use them, so they'll sit on the backburner for now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 4441420, member: 2205"] I was just revisiting this thread (after having watched the new animated Clone Wars movie) and here's a few more thoughts. For various reasons, I still haven't run this after all, and I've got these ideas still percolating in my head. 1) Star Wars Legacy (the Dark Horse comic book series) has done a lot of what I wanted to do very well, so there's no reason not to borrow liberally from them, even though my timeline is sufficiently advanced from theirs that strictly speaking, I don't have to. I especially like the idea of the Fel Dynasty as an Empire Mk. II, less evil and possibly even good, albeit autocratic. The Imperial Knights are a nifty idea too. 2) Legacy did [i][b]exactly[/b][/i] what I wanted to do with the Sith Order; abolished the Rule of Two since retrospectively it proved to be disastrous when Darth Vader killed the Emperor and [i]didn't[/i] ascend to the position of Sith Master himself and take a new apprentice. Here's a handful of my Force using groups of note: 1) Imperial Knights: a militaristic organization that reports directly to the heir of the Empire. As in the Legacy comic books, the Empire is not necessarily evil, although chances are few of us would enjoy living there. Jedi are mistrusted and rare in Imperial space. 2) Orthodox Jedi (Gray Marshals): a group of Jedi knights that is obsessed with reconstructing the order as it existed prior to the Jedi purges, and under the same tenets. Much of the data about how things were organized was lost, so this group also crusades throughout the galaxy for any information on how the Jedi were organized and operated during this time. They adamantly (an in fact, often violently) refuse to accept any criticism that the Jedi's organization and operation may indeed have facilitied Anakin's fall and therefore it's own destruction. They see their mandate as imposing peace and order upon the galaxy as much as possible. As with the original Jedi order, often their methods are somewhat questionable and they don't always leave a happy taste in the mouth of those with whom they've dealt. 3) Skywalker Jedi : Luke did not start the Jedi order up to be like the Order his father joined. Luke was not [i]dis[/i]passionate, he was [i]com[/i]passionate, and his order was much more egalitarian, more open-ended in terms of who it accepted as recruits (it had no choice in the early days of recruiting) and refused to accept the dispassionate and exclusive attitudes that Jedi such as Yoda and Obiwan tried to convince Luke to follow, even as late as [i]Return of the Jedi[/i]. Luke himself believed those principles were failed and did not inculcate them in his students. Skywalker's Jedi, as they are informally known, and the Gray Marshalls have a rather tense relationship; both believing they are more deserving of the title of Jedi, while the other should consider itself some other tradition entirely. This order is the one most closely associated with the Galactic Alliance/New Republic. 4) The Cyborg Order: a group that saw General Grevious and Anakin Skywalker (he who brought balance to the Force, after all) as the ultimate prototype. Eschewing mortal flesh as a weakness, they replace their body parts with cyborg implants and surround themselves with droids. Although many cyborg designs are in vogue, a very popular one closely resembles General Grevious himself, with four arms (to better wield more lightsabers in battle). The detail of Darth Vader's own cybernetic body is lost to time, so many of the Cyborg Order have tried to reconstruct it from the little that is known about it, but interpretations of what Vader looked like vary wildly from individual to individual. 5) And, of course, the Sith. Reborn from the ashes of Darth Sidious and Darth Vader's ignominous defeat, the Rule of Two was quickly abandoned. Likely, the first of the new Sith Order was founded by up and coming pupils of Sidious or Dooku, or perhaps by early students of Luke's or subsequent Jedi Masters who found their way to Yavin, Korriban, or other worlds were Sith influence was still strong. Be that as it may, this organization closely matches that of the Legacy comic books (curse them for developing the Sith in almost exactly the same way I was thinking!) including the new Rule of One and a fondness for red and black ritualistic tattooing and scarring a la Darth Maul. 6) Others: I really like the ideas of the Reformed Havartians, the Holy Dabobahns or the Jedi Anarchs mentioned earlier in this thread, but I don't have any ideas immediately on how to use them, so they'll sit on the backburner for now. [/QUOTE]
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