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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7689384" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Hadn't thought of that. GOod point! </p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, Star Wars has always been a cyclical epic saga. The story of how the new generation takes the torch from the old is going to have call backs to the story of how the old generation got started. And it should. It's not necessarily an insanely new and original plot, but so what? It's a good one, and it's not the same one as before. It's just cyclical. </p><p>Most of history's greatest story tellers didn't give us much that was super original. Look at Hamlet. </p><p></p><p>It's not like A New Hope was good because of it's originality. It was a space samurai hero's journey. It was great for a host of other reasons. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This may be unpopular, but the fact that we don't get all the worldbuilding details in the first film was a huge "pro" for me. I really dislike when films try to give you the entire state of the universe in the first half hour. Or even at all. I don't need to know how the politics of the setting work ever, unless that is specifically part of the plot, and in a multi movie setup, I don't need to understand it all in the first film, even if it is part of the plot. </p><p></p><p>Absolutely one of the best things about the movie, IMO, was all of the unanswered questions. I hope that some of them remain that way until at least the third film, and some are only ever answered in books or cartoons or whatever. </p><p></p><p>As for the resistance, I think the idea is that the New Republic doesn't officially support them, and maybe isn't even united in it's underhanded support of them, but the Resistance is getting support from them. Remember the speech, nazi guy says that the Republic is lying to it's people, and secretly supporting the Resistance. To me, that clearly establishes that the New Order is essentially a rival state, but that the Republic is the biggest game in town, as it were. Meanwhile, the Resistence recognizes the threat, is fighting against it, but lacks official govt sanction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7689384, member: 6704184"] Hadn't thought of that. GOod point! Also, Star Wars has always been a cyclical epic saga. The story of how the new generation takes the torch from the old is going to have call backs to the story of how the old generation got started. And it should. It's not necessarily an insanely new and original plot, but so what? It's a good one, and it's not the same one as before. It's just cyclical. Most of history's greatest story tellers didn't give us much that was super original. Look at Hamlet. It's not like A New Hope was good because of it's originality. It was a space samurai hero's journey. It was great for a host of other reasons. This may be unpopular, but the fact that we don't get all the worldbuilding details in the first film was a huge "pro" for me. I really dislike when films try to give you the entire state of the universe in the first half hour. Or even at all. I don't need to know how the politics of the setting work ever, unless that is specifically part of the plot, and in a multi movie setup, I don't need to understand it all in the first film, even if it is part of the plot. Absolutely one of the best things about the movie, IMO, was all of the unanswered questions. I hope that some of them remain that way until at least the third film, and some are only ever answered in books or cartoons or whatever. As for the resistance, I think the idea is that the New Republic doesn't officially support them, and maybe isn't even united in it's underhanded support of them, but the Resistance is getting support from them. Remember the speech, nazi guy says that the Republic is lying to it's people, and secretly supporting the Resistance. To me, that clearly establishes that the New Order is essentially a rival state, but that the Republic is the biggest game in town, as it were. Meanwhile, the Resistence recognizes the threat, is fighting against it, but lacks official govt sanction. [/QUOTE]
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