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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 7689593" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>My take on the whole thing is that it was a remake that could have actually been better than Star Wars dragged down by trying to pretend to be a sequel rather than a remake. And as a sequel rather than a standalone it made The Phantom Menace look good.</p><p></p><p>Rey was fine, and certainly wasn't a Mary Sue. She was poking with the light sabre <em>as if it was a staff</em> (the fight choreographer was far more on point than they were in any of the original trilogy) - and she was dealing with a badly wounded and part-trained Sith, not with Vader. And whoever said she put the TIE into the gunsights wasn't watching. The guns were locked forward rather than unable to move at all - so she did what she needed to, which was a sharp turn so she could get behind the TIE rather than the other way round.</p><p></p><p>And most of what [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION] has praised I also saw. Making it an enjoyable standalone - and with the sense not to have Ren try to go head to head with Vader (although he could have tried to slow down his dialogue when wearing the mask for a more intimidating and more bluffy effect). Of course the argument could be that Ren was trying to be Anikin, but that's a whole different can of worms.</p><p></p><p>But the planet destroyer felt like cheap and unnecessary drama to me (rescuing Rey felt like it had far more emotional investment) and the super-weapon could have been cut entirely while just making the story a tighter one. Turning Han back into a straight smuggler felt as if it just undercut the character; with all his Rebellion contacts he would have been better off as a blockade runner - same basic job but with humanitarian cargoes. Progress leaning on his roots rather than straight regression. And don't get me started on the confusing mess that was the Republic/Rebellion/Resistance.</p><p></p><p>And I'd have appreciated not thinking "Han's about to do an Obi-Wan isn't he? Yup. There he goes." Also does anyone else think Snoke's about 6" tall like that fear demon from Buffy?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 7689593, member: 87792"] My take on the whole thing is that it was a remake that could have actually been better than Star Wars dragged down by trying to pretend to be a sequel rather than a remake. And as a sequel rather than a standalone it made The Phantom Menace look good. Rey was fine, and certainly wasn't a Mary Sue. She was poking with the light sabre [I]as if it was a staff[/I] (the fight choreographer was far more on point than they were in any of the original trilogy) - and she was dealing with a badly wounded and part-trained Sith, not with Vader. And whoever said she put the TIE into the gunsights wasn't watching. The guns were locked forward rather than unable to move at all - so she did what she needed to, which was a sharp turn so she could get behind the TIE rather than the other way round. And most of what [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION] has praised I also saw. Making it an enjoyable standalone - and with the sense not to have Ren try to go head to head with Vader (although he could have tried to slow down his dialogue when wearing the mask for a more intimidating and more bluffy effect). Of course the argument could be that Ren was trying to be Anikin, but that's a whole different can of worms. But the planet destroyer felt like cheap and unnecessary drama to me (rescuing Rey felt like it had far more emotional investment) and the super-weapon could have been cut entirely while just making the story a tighter one. Turning Han back into a straight smuggler felt as if it just undercut the character; with all his Rebellion contacts he would have been better off as a blockade runner - same basic job but with humanitarian cargoes. Progress leaning on his roots rather than straight regression. And don't get me started on the confusing mess that was the Republic/Rebellion/Resistance. And I'd have appreciated not thinking "Han's about to do an Obi-Wan isn't he? Yup. There he goes." Also does anyone else think Snoke's about 6" tall like that fear demon from Buffy? [/QUOTE]
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