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<blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 7689688" data-attributes="member: 82779"><p>I just saw the film last night. I have to say that it was a fun film to watch, but it definitely didn't live up to the hype: it's Star Wars, it literally couldn't live up to the hype even if it was 100% as good as the original films.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Although I found the film enjoyable (the thumbs-up/lighter moment between Fin and BB8 was absolutely precious), I do have some issues with the movie.</p><p></p><p>The big Han death scene was just bad. I like the Han character. I even like Kylo Ren. However, this film gave us absolutely nothing about the relationship between Han and Ren. When Ren then betrays that relationship, it's a great moment that falls flat because they didn't put the work in to make me care about their relationship.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Another major issue that I had was that the film was fairly unoriginal. It parallels and copies the original trilogy so hard that I felt like I was watching a mashup of episodes 4, 5 and 6:</p><p></p><p>1) We have an important piece of intel being placed in a droid.</p><p>2) We have a young person gifted with the force living on a desert planet.</p><p>3) We have that person meeting the droid who didn't make it straight back to the rebels.</p><p>4) We have that young person's life being completely uprooted and thrown into disarray because of her association with the droid carrying the intel.</p><p>5) We have a masked dark jedi working for the empire.</p><p>6) That dark jedi was trained by a good jedi and was then seduced to evil by a dark master.</p><p>7) The dark jedi has two relatives, one of which tells the other that there is still good in the dark jedi.</p><p>8) The dark jedi has a master that we only see in holographic communications.</p><p>9) There is conflict between the dark jedi and the non-jedi imperial officers, who live under the threat of that dark jedi's wrath.</p><p>10) The force-gifted young person meets a father like mentor who agrees to help with the droid issue.</p><p>11) We have a wizened old person giving a lightsaber to the force-gifted young person.</p><p>12) We have the young person rejecting the heroes call at first and then taking it up when a person she cares about is hurt.</p><p>13) We have a massive weapon capable of killing planets.</p><p>14) We have a mission to knock out a force field generator.</p><p>15) We have a bombing run on the one vulnerable spot on the planet-killing weapon.</p><p>16) We have C3PO interjecting himself into a romantic moment between Han and Leia: to quote Cinemasins, "The 'C' stand for cock-block."</p><p>17) We have a force-gifted young person going off on her own to train with a jedi master in exile.</p><p>18) We have the heroes hiding under the deck-plates when the falcon is swallowed up by a larger ship.</p><p>19) We have the he's my relative revelation about the one of the heroes and the dark jedi.</p><p>20) We have the death of the father-like mentor to the force-gifted young person, which eventually spurs the seeking of a new mentor (see #17).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, if you suck up a sun to use as a weapon to destroy planets, when that weapon is destroyed the sun is not going to simply reconstitute itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaPilot, post: 7689688, member: 82779"] I just saw the film last night. I have to say that it was a fun film to watch, but it definitely didn't live up to the hype: it's Star Wars, it literally couldn't live up to the hype even if it was 100% as good as the original films. Although I found the film enjoyable (the thumbs-up/lighter moment between Fin and BB8 was absolutely precious), I do have some issues with the movie. The big Han death scene was just bad. I like the Han character. I even like Kylo Ren. However, this film gave us absolutely nothing about the relationship between Han and Ren. When Ren then betrays that relationship, it's a great moment that falls flat because they didn't put the work in to make me care about their relationship. Another major issue that I had was that the film was fairly unoriginal. It parallels and copies the original trilogy so hard that I felt like I was watching a mashup of episodes 4, 5 and 6: 1) We have an important piece of intel being placed in a droid. 2) We have a young person gifted with the force living on a desert planet. 3) We have that person meeting the droid who didn't make it straight back to the rebels. 4) We have that young person's life being completely uprooted and thrown into disarray because of her association with the droid carrying the intel. 5) We have a masked dark jedi working for the empire. 6) That dark jedi was trained by a good jedi and was then seduced to evil by a dark master. 7) The dark jedi has two relatives, one of which tells the other that there is still good in the dark jedi. 8) The dark jedi has a master that we only see in holographic communications. 9) There is conflict between the dark jedi and the non-jedi imperial officers, who live under the threat of that dark jedi's wrath. 10) The force-gifted young person meets a father like mentor who agrees to help with the droid issue. 11) We have a wizened old person giving a lightsaber to the force-gifted young person. 12) We have the young person rejecting the heroes call at first and then taking it up when a person she cares about is hurt. 13) We have a massive weapon capable of killing planets. 14) We have a mission to knock out a force field generator. 15) We have a bombing run on the one vulnerable spot on the planet-killing weapon. 16) We have C3PO interjecting himself into a romantic moment between Han and Leia: to quote Cinemasins, "The 'C' stand for cock-block." 17) We have a force-gifted young person going off on her own to train with a jedi master in exile. 18) We have the heroes hiding under the deck-plates when the falcon is swallowed up by a larger ship. 19) We have the he's my relative revelation about the one of the heroes and the dark jedi. 20) We have the death of the father-like mentor to the force-gifted young person, which eventually spurs the seeking of a new mentor (see #17). Also, if you suck up a sun to use as a weapon to destroy planets, when that weapon is destroyed the sun is not going to simply reconstitute itself. [/QUOTE]
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