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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 7689799" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Well, I have finally gotten the chance to stick around and write.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[I am a huge fan of the prequels, I started watching the saga with Episode I, and didn't see the original trilogy until after Attack of the clones, and somehow had to have the Palpatine=Sidious thing being spelled out to me. </p><p></p><p>so in short, my opinions could be very unorthodox, so please don't get angry or mad]</p><p></p><p>One of the biggest problems of long franchises is the way they handle second and third generation fans during major revivals that go "back to basics". The first generation demands this revival be as suited to them as possible at the expense of younger fans. This was a problem for DC comics, this was a problem for D&D, and it is a problem for Star Wars. The force awakens spends quite a long time disowning the prequel trilogy it isn't funny. There are a subtle "take that prequels" here and there, but nowhere as bad as in the attack on the Republic, I cringed on my seat as I saw Coruscant blown apart without they even bothering to call it by name -well, reading this thread it turns out it wasn't Coruscant, but I didn't know that when I saw a planet that looked like Coruscant, had the narrative role of Coruscant and made quack like Coruscant, so to me it was Coruscant and I had the same emotional response as if it was Coruscant-. The message was clear, they went scorched earth on the prequels, no more intrigue, no more politics, only adventure and lone pilots singlehandedly solving problems by blowing massive superweapons.</p><p></p><p>Thankfully the movie has actual substance to make up for the cheap pandering to the original trilogy die-hards. While the main plot is a carbon copy of A new hope, the actual story is far more interesting and completely distinct, with the main revelations well kept in secret instead of spoilered in the trailers. And there are enough hints and little reminders that somehow redeem the prequels, for example Kylo Ren/Ben Solo truly looks and feels like Anakin's grandchild.</p><p></p><p>The movie really feels like a Star Wars movie; it hits all the points you'd expect from a Star Wars movie. It relies a lot more on comedy than usual, but it helps the movie to be child friendly, because it is way darker than the other entry points: A new Hope and the Phantom Menace. The fast pace works like a charm, the acting is amazing, and the new characters are interesting and likable. The dramatic exchange between Ben and Han was great. The tension and the expectation go perfectly, you really want Ben not to smash that door, you really want Han to reach him, you want to believe it is possible, yet deep down you know it is not true and it is the end for Han... </p><p></p><p>And speaking of Han, his character goes full circle. Despite it being a tragedy, it was a worthy end for him. From a selfish rogue who cares for nothing but his own hide to a mature man who dies for love. I can't think of a more beautiful swansong.</p><p></p><p>(Oh yes, and this is also the first time stormtroopers are allowed to be competent and scary on-screen.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 7689799, member: 6689464"] Well, I have finally gotten the chance to stick around and write. [I am a huge fan of the prequels, I started watching the saga with Episode I, and didn't see the original trilogy until after Attack of the clones, and somehow had to have the Palpatine=Sidious thing being spelled out to me. so in short, my opinions could be very unorthodox, so please don't get angry or mad] One of the biggest problems of long franchises is the way they handle second and third generation fans during major revivals that go "back to basics". The first generation demands this revival be as suited to them as possible at the expense of younger fans. This was a problem for DC comics, this was a problem for D&D, and it is a problem for Star Wars. The force awakens spends quite a long time disowning the prequel trilogy it isn't funny. There are a subtle "take that prequels" here and there, but nowhere as bad as in the attack on the Republic, I cringed on my seat as I saw Coruscant blown apart without they even bothering to call it by name -well, reading this thread it turns out it wasn't Coruscant, but I didn't know that when I saw a planet that looked like Coruscant, had the narrative role of Coruscant and made quack like Coruscant, so to me it was Coruscant and I had the same emotional response as if it was Coruscant-. The message was clear, they went scorched earth on the prequels, no more intrigue, no more politics, only adventure and lone pilots singlehandedly solving problems by blowing massive superweapons. Thankfully the movie has actual substance to make up for the cheap pandering to the original trilogy die-hards. While the main plot is a carbon copy of A new hope, the actual story is far more interesting and completely distinct, with the main revelations well kept in secret instead of spoilered in the trailers. And there are enough hints and little reminders that somehow redeem the prequels, for example Kylo Ren/Ben Solo truly looks and feels like Anakin's grandchild. The movie really feels like a Star Wars movie; it hits all the points you'd expect from a Star Wars movie. It relies a lot more on comedy than usual, but it helps the movie to be child friendly, because it is way darker than the other entry points: A new Hope and the Phantom Menace. The fast pace works like a charm, the acting is amazing, and the new characters are interesting and likable. The dramatic exchange between Ben and Han was great. The tension and the expectation go perfectly, you really want Ben not to smash that door, you really want Han to reach him, you want to believe it is possible, yet deep down you know it is not true and it is the end for Han... And speaking of Han, his character goes full circle. Despite it being a tragedy, it was a worthy end for him. From a selfish rogue who cares for nothing but his own hide to a mature man who dies for love. I can't think of a more beautiful swansong. (Oh yes, and this is also the first time stormtroopers are allowed to be competent and scary on-screen.) [/QUOTE]
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