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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdweller00" data-source="post: 7689803" data-attributes="member: 6778479"><p>Overall a reasonably strong positive for me. Some things I really liked and some things I...didn't care for much.</p><p>(Hope none of the following qualify as spoilers).</p><p></p><p>Good:</p><p>- Plotting</p><p>- Characters in general.</p><p>- The "secret" tragedy</p><p>- The fact that neither Finn nor Rey are unrealistically fantastic pilots.</p><p>- Loved the whininess of Kylo Ren, and the occasional temptations he has by the Light Side of the force.</p><p>- The resilience of the latest superweapon, in contrast to a certain convenient ventilation duct in the original film (SW IV)</p><p></p><p>Bad:</p><p>- Finn's "transition" at the beginning doesn't quite seem believable to me. Good try, but doesn't quite get there.</p><p>- I thought the First Order's dogma could have been fleshed out a bit better. What do they claim to fighting against exactly? (There is a speech explaining this, it's just a bit too nebulous)</p><p>- I also think the operating relationship between First order, Republic, and Resistance could have used a bit more detail.</p><p>- Seemed like Supreme Leader Snoke could have used a bit more gravitas. But perhaps he will be fleshed out a bit better in later films.</p><p>- Couple plot holes. For example - Kylo Ren is supposedly a well-trained warrior, but gets defeated and embrassed by individuals who have no prior training with a lightsaber. There are ways this could have been made more believable - play up the debilitation of Ren's previous wound a bit more or the Fate/Destiny aspect of the Force, for example.</p><p>- Another: Why does a supposedly minor officer like Phasma get a name whereas the basic stormtrooper grunts get only a designation code?</p><p>(Both fairly minor niggles)</p><p>- Use of yet another superweapon to create urgency.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowdweller00, post: 7689803, member: 6778479"] Overall a reasonably strong positive for me. Some things I really liked and some things I...didn't care for much. (Hope none of the following qualify as spoilers). Good: - Plotting - Characters in general. - The "secret" tragedy - The fact that neither Finn nor Rey are unrealistically fantastic pilots. - Loved the whininess of Kylo Ren, and the occasional temptations he has by the Light Side of the force. - The resilience of the latest superweapon, in contrast to a certain convenient ventilation duct in the original film (SW IV) Bad: - Finn's "transition" at the beginning doesn't quite seem believable to me. Good try, but doesn't quite get there. - I thought the First Order's dogma could have been fleshed out a bit better. What do they claim to fighting against exactly? (There is a speech explaining this, it's just a bit too nebulous) - I also think the operating relationship between First order, Republic, and Resistance could have used a bit more detail. - Seemed like Supreme Leader Snoke could have used a bit more gravitas. But perhaps he will be fleshed out a bit better in later films. - Couple plot holes. For example - Kylo Ren is supposedly a well-trained warrior, but gets defeated and embrassed by individuals who have no prior training with a lightsaber. There are ways this could have been made more believable - play up the debilitation of Ren's previous wound a bit more or the Fate/Destiny aspect of the Force, for example. - Another: Why does a supposedly minor officer like Phasma get a name whereas the basic stormtrooper grunts get only a designation code? (Both fairly minor niggles) - Use of yet another superweapon to create urgency. [/QUOTE]
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