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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7689963" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Why is that confusing? She's an abandoned kid. You don't ever stop being an abandoned kid. She has to wait because they're coming back. Sure, that's never going to happen, but just being gone as long as she has will have had her mind becoming more and more convinced that she may have missed them. They may have come back for her, and then she wasn't there. IT takes a lot to force someone out of that mindset. "Doing better for herself" isn't a strong motivator. In fact, for many people, in general, it's not a strong motivator. </p><p>The movie also suggests so strongly it might as well be explicit that she is waiting for family. Whether that is literally her parents, or someone with a similar role in her life at a young age doesn't really matter. </p><p></p><p>"Why does she run away from the lightsaber? Why did the vision scare her? It didn't scare me. Again, I need to know the protaganist's motivation." </p><p>It took me a while to know where to begin with this, because it just seems almost explicitly obvious. First of all, she's never experienced anything like that before. Second, the vision demands of her that she fulfill a destiny, one that runs counter to her obsessive need to keep faith that her parents/whatever will come back. The vision also shows her some dark stuff. It's totally nomal, especially in a story, for someone to run from something like that. </p><p></p><p>And there is literally nothing in the film that suggests that Rey is one of Luke's former students. She certainly isn't well trained with a lightsaber. She not only vaguely uses it like a staff, she also hesitantly mimics Finn's stance when she starts using it. </p><p></p><p>Maybe rewatch it without that impression, and her motivations will make more sense to you? </p><p></p><p>Let's see...the need to find Luke: </p><p>He's Leia's brother. If there was nothing else, that would be enough. </p><p>He is the guy who trained Kylo Ren. If there was nothing else, that would be enough. </p><p>He is the most powerful and knowledgeable light side force user anyone knows of. If there was nothing else, that would be enough. </p><p>He's the guy who defeated Vader and Palpatine, the guy who destroyed the first Death Star, probably the greatest hero of the Galactic Civil War. See above. </p><p>He's the last Jedi. For both sides, that is enough. </p><p></p><p>the Map: Why on earth would he leave it in one place/piece? That would not help him stay hidden. He left one part with R2, a trustworthy and reliable ally who has delivered such valuable intel a time or two before, and the other piece with an old friend and ally that most people would never even know to look for, hidden on a backwater world. </p><p>What about that doesn't make sense?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7689963, member: 6704184"] Why is that confusing? She's an abandoned kid. You don't ever stop being an abandoned kid. She has to wait because they're coming back. Sure, that's never going to happen, but just being gone as long as she has will have had her mind becoming more and more convinced that she may have missed them. They may have come back for her, and then she wasn't there. IT takes a lot to force someone out of that mindset. "Doing better for herself" isn't a strong motivator. In fact, for many people, in general, it's not a strong motivator. The movie also suggests so strongly it might as well be explicit that she is waiting for family. Whether that is literally her parents, or someone with a similar role in her life at a young age doesn't really matter. "Why does she run away from the lightsaber? Why did the vision scare her? It didn't scare me. Again, I need to know the protaganist's motivation." It took me a while to know where to begin with this, because it just seems almost explicitly obvious. First of all, she's never experienced anything like that before. Second, the vision demands of her that she fulfill a destiny, one that runs counter to her obsessive need to keep faith that her parents/whatever will come back. The vision also shows her some dark stuff. It's totally nomal, especially in a story, for someone to run from something like that. And there is literally nothing in the film that suggests that Rey is one of Luke's former students. She certainly isn't well trained with a lightsaber. She not only vaguely uses it like a staff, she also hesitantly mimics Finn's stance when she starts using it. Maybe rewatch it without that impression, and her motivations will make more sense to you? Let's see...the need to find Luke: He's Leia's brother. If there was nothing else, that would be enough. He is the guy who trained Kylo Ren. If there was nothing else, that would be enough. He is the most powerful and knowledgeable light side force user anyone knows of. If there was nothing else, that would be enough. He's the guy who defeated Vader and Palpatine, the guy who destroyed the first Death Star, probably the greatest hero of the Galactic Civil War. See above. He's the last Jedi. For both sides, that is enough. the Map: Why on earth would he leave it in one place/piece? That would not help him stay hidden. He left one part with R2, a trustworthy and reliable ally who has delivered such valuable intel a time or two before, and the other piece with an old friend and ally that most people would never even know to look for, hidden on a backwater world. What about that doesn't make sense? [/QUOTE]
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