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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9405821" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah and I think this is especially true with some "established IPs", like some people get incredibly offended if it's not largely predictable and trite. I mean, to be fair with such IPs it is sometimes the case that attempts to be original often veer into stupidity (c.f. Mando S3, Boba Fett), but that's not really an excuse.</p><p></p><p>CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds/L&O's continuing success (with slight apologies to L&O for grouping them with stuff that is clearly a "tier below" - two tiers in Criminal Minds' case!) shows that extreme predictability can be an asset for some though.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think there's a pretty huge gap between "predictable" and "unpredictable". A show isn't one or the other in most cases. It's on a spectrum. I would say that, grading on a curve for Star Wars, this show is vastly less predictable in a good way than most SW TV shows. Ahsoka's did have a couple of unpredictable episodes in the first half, but only because they were so extremely stupid and implausible I couldn't have predicted that. Indeed that's kind of a pattern with a lot of Filoni/Favreau "unpredictable" stuff, it's like "That's just dumb and makes no sense, so yes it does surprise me".</p><p></p><p>There's nothing wrong with telegraphing a reveal either - that doesn't make a show predictable. A truly predictable show wouldn't even want/need to telegraph the reveal, it'd have been instantly guessed. Some of the guesses in this thread show that's not been the case here. Whereas once Ahsoka, for example, was basically half-way through, I could basically have written the entire rest of it. Right down to some of the ultra-trite lines of dialogue.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - It strikes me that essentially what a lot of complain-y Star Wars fans (very much including those in this thread) actually want is essentially the Star Wars equivalent of Law & Order, where like, some Jedi go around solving crimes and busting bad guys, and occasionally questions get raised about the Republic, and whether justice is really being done, but all the main characters are Just Honest Jedi Doing The Best Job They Can. All procedural. All safe-ish. Maybe a Jedi equivalent of Det. Stabler from SVU gets too angry and has to go meditate for an episode, and Jedi Benson gets too attached and nearly Force-lightnings someone who was mean to a child. That sort of thing. </p><p></p><p>I mean I'm not saying I wouldn't watch Jedi & Order: Coruscant*.</p><p></p><p>* = BTW this literally came to me in a dream a couple of weeks back, literally Stabler from SVU was a Jedi busting people and complaining about the Republic a lot. I guess my brain was not trying very hard dream-wise that night, given I'd watched The Acolyte and SVU earlier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9405821, member: 18"] Yeah and I think this is especially true with some "established IPs", like some people get incredibly offended if it's not largely predictable and trite. I mean, to be fair with such IPs it is sometimes the case that attempts to be original often veer into stupidity (c.f. Mando S3, Boba Fett), but that's not really an excuse. CSI/NCIS/Criminal Minds/L&O's continuing success (with slight apologies to L&O for grouping them with stuff that is clearly a "tier below" - two tiers in Criminal Minds' case!) shows that extreme predictability can be an asset for some though. I think there's a pretty huge gap between "predictable" and "unpredictable". A show isn't one or the other in most cases. It's on a spectrum. I would say that, grading on a curve for Star Wars, this show is vastly less predictable in a good way than most SW TV shows. Ahsoka's did have a couple of unpredictable episodes in the first half, but only because they were so extremely stupid and implausible I couldn't have predicted that. Indeed that's kind of a pattern with a lot of Filoni/Favreau "unpredictable" stuff, it's like "That's just dumb and makes no sense, so yes it does surprise me". There's nothing wrong with telegraphing a reveal either - that doesn't make a show predictable. A truly predictable show wouldn't even want/need to telegraph the reveal, it'd have been instantly guessed. Some of the guesses in this thread show that's not been the case here. Whereas once Ahsoka, for example, was basically half-way through, I could basically have written the entire rest of it. Right down to some of the ultra-trite lines of dialogue. EDIT - It strikes me that essentially what a lot of complain-y Star Wars fans (very much including those in this thread) actually want is essentially the Star Wars equivalent of Law & Order, where like, some Jedi go around solving crimes and busting bad guys, and occasionally questions get raised about the Republic, and whether justice is really being done, but all the main characters are Just Honest Jedi Doing The Best Job They Can. All procedural. All safe-ish. Maybe a Jedi equivalent of Det. Stabler from SVU gets too angry and has to go meditate for an episode, and Jedi Benson gets too attached and nearly Force-lightnings someone who was mean to a child. That sort of thing. I mean I'm not saying I wouldn't watch Jedi & Order: Coruscant*. * = BTW this literally came to me in a dream a couple of weeks back, literally Stabler from SVU was a Jedi busting people and complaining about the Republic a lot. I guess my brain was not trying very hard dream-wise that night, given I'd watched The Acolyte and SVU earlier. [/QUOTE]
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