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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 9406973" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>I just recently finished watching the final season of <em>Star Trek: Discovery </em>and am only now watching <em>Star Trek: Picard </em>for the first time, and it's got me comparing Starfleet and the Jedi Order. These are my initial thoughts so they're still a bit rough around the edges.</p><p></p><p>Starfleet is an organization with a noble purpose. There are bad actors within Starfleet (including spies and other infiltrators), and sometimes its leaders make the wrong call, but overall the organization is a positive influence with a set of strong core values. They are generally a force for good in the galaxy.</p><p></p><p>The Jedi Order played a similar role to Starfleet in the Old Republic. However, since the prequels onwards, the organization has been portrayed as <em>fundamentally </em>wrong / misguided in both its practices and its core values ... to the point that one feels that they not only <em>deserved </em>to fall but perhaps even <em>needed </em>to in order that something better could rise from the ashes.</p><p></p><p>That idea, in and of itself, would have been fine ... but what we got instead was Luke trying to rebuild the old Jedi Order only to have it blow up in his face. I get the impression that Disney is now setting Rey up to be the builder of a new and improved Jedi Order, and I hope they will let her succeed. I think we could all really do with a version of the Jedi Order that is more like Starfleet and is truly a force for good. (They can still have bad actors and infiltrators and such; but I want a Jedi Order that is not "wrong" on a fundamental level.)</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Thinking about it some more, similar comparisons can be made between the Federation and the Republic. The Federation is generally portrayed in a positive light. Even in <em>Discovery</em>'s later seasons, where we see a Federation that has suffered some major setbacks, it ultimately recovers due to its strong underlying principles. The Old Republic, meanwhile, is portrayed as irredeemably corrupt in the prequels, while the post-OT New Republic is shown to be doomed from the start and ultimately gets vaporized.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 9406973, member: 54629"] I just recently finished watching the final season of [I]Star Trek: Discovery [/I]and am only now watching [I]Star Trek: Picard [/I]for the first time, and it's got me comparing Starfleet and the Jedi Order. These are my initial thoughts so they're still a bit rough around the edges. Starfleet is an organization with a noble purpose. There are bad actors within Starfleet (including spies and other infiltrators), and sometimes its leaders make the wrong call, but overall the organization is a positive influence with a set of strong core values. They are generally a force for good in the galaxy. The Jedi Order played a similar role to Starfleet in the Old Republic. However, since the prequels onwards, the organization has been portrayed as [I]fundamentally [/I]wrong / misguided in both its practices and its core values ... to the point that one feels that they not only [I]deserved [/I]to fall but perhaps even [I]needed [/I]to in order that something better could rise from the ashes. That idea, in and of itself, would have been fine ... but what we got instead was Luke trying to rebuild the old Jedi Order only to have it blow up in his face. I get the impression that Disney is now setting Rey up to be the builder of a new and improved Jedi Order, and I hope they will let her succeed. I think we could all really do with a version of the Jedi Order that is more like Starfleet and is truly a force for good. (They can still have bad actors and infiltrators and such; but I want a Jedi Order that is not "wrong" on a fundamental level.) EDIT: Thinking about it some more, similar comparisons can be made between the Federation and the Republic. The Federation is generally portrayed in a positive light. Even in [I]Discovery[/I]'s later seasons, where we see a Federation that has suffered some major setbacks, it ultimately recovers due to its strong underlying principles. The Old Republic, meanwhile, is portrayed as irredeemably corrupt in the prequels, while the post-OT New Republic is shown to be doomed from the start and ultimately gets vaporized. [/QUOTE]
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