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<blockquote data-quote="ledded" data-source="post: 1278411" data-attributes="member: 12744">Well, Obi-Wan was a known liar and deceiver who associated with all manner of ne'er-do-wells. He was indirectly chastised by Yoda himself for his arrogance and impudence. His defiance of the judgement of the council in training Anakin may have directly contributed to the deaths of millions, all in order to serve his pride/honor. Doesnt make him a bad guy however; though it does make me like him more <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. He's the closest thing to a 'lovable rogue' that we're gonna get in Episode I - III.&nbsp;Anakin, well, he struggled with all kinds of bad issues in episode II but the whole genocidal rampage thing IMO put him right over the edge. Revenge, hate, anger... so bad that Yoda could feel his destructive emotion.&nbsp;And Luke... overconfidence, arrogance, fear... he was full of all of them. He nearly gave into his rage at the end. He strangled those gaurds in Jabba's palace with the force when he may have just as easily used a mind trick to subdue them.&nbsp;They all may have had good reasons, and Jedi certainly are not D&amp;D paladins, but any of these acts, performed for imperfect reasons, could invite the dark side. Some more than others, but definitely.&nbsp; Actually, IMO very few of the Jedi ever shown on the screen for more than a little bit were 'perfect' Jedi, and I'd rather they be that way than not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ledded, post: 1278411, member: 12744"] Well, Obi-Wan was a known liar and deceiver who associated with all manner of ne'er-do-wells. He was indirectly chastised by Yoda himself for his arrogance and impudence. His defiance of the judgement of the council in training Anakin may have directly contributed to the deaths of millions, all in order to serve his pride/honor. Doesnt make him a bad guy however; though it does make me like him more :). He's the closest thing to a 'lovable rogue' that we're gonna get in Episode I - III. Anakin, well, he struggled with all kinds of bad issues in episode II but the whole genocidal rampage thing IMO put him right over the edge. Revenge, hate, anger... so bad that Yoda could feel his destructive emotion. And Luke... overconfidence, arrogance, fear... he was full of all of them. He nearly gave into his rage at the end. He strangled those gaurds in Jabba's palace with the force when he may have just as easily used a mind trick to subdue them. They all may have had good reasons, and Jedi certainly are not D&D paladins, but any of these acts, performed for imperfect reasons, could invite the dark side. Some more than others, but definitely. Actually, IMO very few of the Jedi ever shown on the screen for more than a little bit were 'perfect' Jedi, and I'd rather they be that way than not. [/QUOTE]

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