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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9768563" data-attributes="member: 7808">I want to address this on two different levels.First, no. Jedi don't get to pull in the Force points to strong arm a sci-fi a negotiation for the same reason good-aligned Clerics don't get to sneak love potions into a meal to help at a fantasy negotiation. Because using the Force that way isn't actually using diplomacy and persuasion. It's using magic, external manipulation, and mind control to get the outcome you want. Ben Kenobi could get away with clouding the mind of a stormtrooper because he was an enemy combatant, but he couldn't use a Force point on it no matter how scared he was of getting caught. And he couldn't use the force to negotiate with Han, ever.Second, when looking at this whole conversation from a larger level, it seems you are struggling with Force points as a meta-currency. And IMNSHO it sounds like problem is that you're treating them too much like currency. You need to make them a whole lot more meta.Force points are only there to enforce the feel of the game you want to bring to your players. If they're not doing that, they're not working. And if they're not working, the player doesn't get a replacement Force point. It's not just a transaction where if the player uses them in a way the makes the mission successful, then they are justified. The players have to do more with it. They have to make the game feel Star-Wars-y on the meta level. Anything short of that and the use of the Force Point was a failure, even if the player succeeded in their task.To put it another way...Quibbling over what is heroic is exactly what you need to do as a GM. The next time you feel like...... Simply don't reward it. No replacement Force point for you. And, yes, feel free to dispense those Dark Side Points as well. This is exactly what they're here for.</blockquote>

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