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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9768660" data-attributes="member: 4937">That's kind of my point exactly.  Kenobi had a lot more riding on resolving the issue without conflict than his own personal safety.  As such, I would have warned Kenobi's player he's treading a gray line and to be careful, but I wouldn't have treated this as an example of using a Force Power in a way that gains you a dark side point.We need to distinguish here between using a force power (something only force sensitives can do and only after long and difficult training) and using a force point.  Qui-Gon uses a force power to deceive Watto, which brings up the morality of deception.  Generally speaking, you can only deceive morally in order to save innocent lives that are in immediate danger.  I agree Qui-Gon's use doesn't rise to that level.  But then, I've always been rather dubious about George Lucas as a judge of morality, as I feel his movies are a bit incoherent on the point of what is moral and the Jedi ultimately end up coming off as bad to me as the Sith - Law vs. Chaos rather than clear Good vs. Evil.  LN's fighting CE's where the people I end up sympathizing within the story are Owen and Beru (apart from Owen's well-intentioned but dubious lie about Anakin Skywalker having been a spice runner).</blockquote>