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<blockquote data-quote="arscott" data-source="post: 2260537" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Obviously, I'm with you on the CR 1. Here's what I figure:</p><p></p><p>The best baseline for determining Challenge ratings of the StarCraft units is probably the Terran Marine. He's a basic grunt in power armor with a machine gun. That means he needs, at minimum, 4 feats: Firearms proficiency, Light Armor Proficiency, Medium Armor Proficiency, and Power Armor Proficiency. If he takes a starting occupation that grants firearms proficiency, Then he can get the three remaining proficiencies as a CR 2 opponent: The first two with his starting feats, and the last with either the 2nd level strong hero bonus feat, or his third level feat as an ordinary.</p><p></p><p>Conviniently, StarCraft is a computer game, and awards points for unit kills. Here's the list, broken down into characters/creatures, ground vehicles, and starships. Most heroes simply have twice the point award of their non-hero varieties, so I've ommitted most of them. I also included all buildings that do damage or could reasonably be statted up as a creature:</p><p></p><p>Characters/Creatures:</p><p>10: Civilian, Larva, Critters</p><p>25: Broodling</p><p>50: Zergling</p><p>100: Marine, Drone, Probe</p><p>200: Firebat, Overlord, Scourge, Zealot</p><p>250: Medic</p><p>350: Ghost, Hydralisk*</p><p>400: Infested Terran</p><p>450: Defiler, Observer</p><p>500: Lurker, Dragoon</p><p>600: Mutalisk</p><p>650: Dark Templar</p><p>700: High Templar</p><p>800: Queen, Reaver</p><p>1100: Guardian, Devourer</p><p>1300: Ultralisk, Dark Archon</p><p>1400: Archon</p><p>4000: Infested Kerrigan</p><p></p><p>* I think this is a typo on the part of the game designers, and should actually be 250. It's build score (which is usually half of the kill scores given here) is 125, and the hunter killer has a kill score of 500 (Hero kill scores are usually twice the kill score of the regular unit)</p><p></p><p>Starships:</p><p>400: Shuttle</p><p>600: Dropship</p><p>700: Corsair</p><p>800: Wraith, Valkyrie</p><p>1250: Science Vessel</p><p>1300: Scout</p><p>1900: Carrier</p><p>2050: Arbiter</p><p>2400: Battlecruiser</p><p></p><p>Ground Vehicles:</p><p>100: SCV</p><p>150: Vulture</p><p>400: Goliath</p><p>700: Seige Tank</p><p></p><p>Buildings:</p><p>150: Missile Turret</p><p>195: Sunken Colony</p><p>240: Spore Colony</p><p>300: Photon Cannon</p><p>2500: Cerebrate</p><p>4000: Overmind Cocoon</p><p>10000: Overmind</p><p></p><p>The zergling is one step below the CR 2 marine, so CR 1 seems to make sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What was is specifically that you liked and disliked about the various zerglings?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="arscott, post: 2260537, member: 17969"] Obviously, I'm with you on the CR 1. Here's what I figure: The best baseline for determining Challenge ratings of the StarCraft units is probably the Terran Marine. He's a basic grunt in power armor with a machine gun. That means he needs, at minimum, 4 feats: Firearms proficiency, Light Armor Proficiency, Medium Armor Proficiency, and Power Armor Proficiency. If he takes a starting occupation that grants firearms proficiency, Then he can get the three remaining proficiencies as a CR 2 opponent: The first two with his starting feats, and the last with either the 2nd level strong hero bonus feat, or his third level feat as an ordinary. Conviniently, StarCraft is a computer game, and awards points for unit kills. Here's the list, broken down into characters/creatures, ground vehicles, and starships. Most heroes simply have twice the point award of their non-hero varieties, so I've ommitted most of them. I also included all buildings that do damage or could reasonably be statted up as a creature: Characters/Creatures: 10: Civilian, Larva, Critters 25: Broodling 50: Zergling 100: Marine, Drone, Probe 200: Firebat, Overlord, Scourge, Zealot 250: Medic 350: Ghost, Hydralisk* 400: Infested Terran 450: Defiler, Observer 500: Lurker, Dragoon 600: Mutalisk 650: Dark Templar 700: High Templar 800: Queen, Reaver 1100: Guardian, Devourer 1300: Ultralisk, Dark Archon 1400: Archon 4000: Infested Kerrigan * I think this is a typo on the part of the game designers, and should actually be 250. It's build score (which is usually half of the kill scores given here) is 125, and the hunter killer has a kill score of 500 (Hero kill scores are usually twice the kill score of the regular unit) Starships: 400: Shuttle 600: Dropship 700: Corsair 800: Wraith, Valkyrie 1250: Science Vessel 1300: Scout 1900: Carrier 2050: Arbiter 2400: Battlecruiser Ground Vehicles: 100: SCV 150: Vulture 400: Goliath 700: Seige Tank Buildings: 150: Missile Turret 195: Sunken Colony 240: Spore Colony 300: Photon Cannon 2500: Cerebrate 4000: Overmind Cocoon 10000: Overmind The zergling is one step below the CR 2 marine, so CR 1 seems to make sense. What was is specifically that you liked and disliked about the various zerglings? [/QUOTE]
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