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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 5019640" data-attributes="member: 115">Eli even says specifically that Scott hasn't seen it.My guess as to Scott finding out is that Eli eventually confides in Chloe, and Chloe tells Scott. That's certainly a valid frame of thought, I won't argue that.  It's just one I happen to disagree with.Rush's point is that the ends justify the means.  That is, the situation is dire, and lifeboat ethics presupposes that anything that needs to be done gets done.  Hence, Rush believes someone should sit in the chair, irregardless of a possible risk to life.  Rush, in essence, personifies lifeboat ethics, ie survival is greater than ethics.  He does what needs to be done to ensure the survival of the crew.Young's point is that lifeboats ethics is bull.  That is, despite the fact that the situation is dire, ethics trumps survival.  Hence, Young believes that no one should sit in the chair, even volunteers, because someone could get hurt.  Young, in essence, personifies ethical superiority, ie ethics is greater than survival.  It's better to let everyone die than to cross ethical boundaries.At least, Young used to hold that position.  The second Young chose survival over ethics, he essentially became Rush.  There were ways of dealing with the situation that did not involve stranding/killing Rush.  For one, he could have showed everyone the recording and confined Rush to quarters, a la Greer in the first episode.  Claiming Rush would never let the crap end is incidental; Young already decided to take that route before the conversation.  He first tried to blackmail him, then beat the crap out of him and left him to die.That's the danger of obsession.  As aptly said by Nietzsche, "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you."  Young became obsessed with stopping Rush... and ended up becoming him, in the end.Wray, not coincidentally, is in the middle.  She seems at this point to represent a balance between the two points of view.  Case in point, she (assumingly) upholds Young's command not to have anyone sit in the chair.  However, she also allows Rush free reign to do anything short of that.  She's the one that, when confronted by Chloe about her zealotry, pulls back and makes a compromise.  There is a point in between where ethics and survival can co-exist; I think most of the crew gets that.  Risks need to be taken, but that doesn't mean they can't be controlled risks.In the end, neither Rush nor Young is right.  Both of them are so caught up in themselves they've lost sight of the middle ground.</blockquote>

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