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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 4990208" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>You're right, we see things differently! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But that's cool, of course!</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that while we didn't see these issues fully explored in this episode, we just might as the series progresses. I guess that's where my off-hand comment about wrapping things up nicely with a bow comes from . . . in "classic" Stargate we usually didn't deal with thorny ethical issues like we see here, and when we did, they usually got "wrapped up" in one episode. This show has an obviously different tone and writing style, part of which is that the story is taking it's time to move along. Some hate this, I love it!</p><p></p><p>With Telford usurping Young's command more than once, Young and Telford obviously have a history. Heck, it seems Telford has a history with several folks on Destiny! Also, Telford outranks Young (I'm pretty sure) and is acting either on direct orders or at least with implicit consent from the Pentagon. Young, at first, isn't happy with what Telford is doing, but doesn't see much that he can do about it. Note Young doesn't come out and say this, but I picked up pretty quickly in the Telford/Young body swaps before this episode. And of course on this episode, Young DID do something about Telford's abuses, he defied the Pentagon and decided to put limits on the body swapping.</p><p></p><p>Young sleeping with his ex in Telford's body just happened, and Telford got an eyeful with the mini swaps during the jumps into and out of FTL. And, of course, we see Telford at her door at the end of the episode. So, I think this one is going to be dealt with.</p><p></p><p>Chloe's decision to lose control and get drunk isn't nearly on the same scale as what Young did. If she had done that in my body, and I had to deal with the hangover the next day, I'd be pretty annoyed and might even say something to my superiors in the military, but overall it's a minor thing. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see any further exploration on that, especially since the scientist Chloe swapped bodies with got almost zero facetime on camera.</p><p></p><p>Eli, well Eli didn't really do anything wrong with his borrowed body. So he ate some food . . . so what? What did happen was the kiss with Chloe. That takes the "love triangle" between Scott, Chloe, and Eli a bit further and I think we see some further development on that.</p><p></p><p>And we haven't yet seen the events hinted at in some of the promo materials, that someone who swaps into Wray's body (who is a lesbian, which also hasn't really been explored yet) uses her body to sleep with someone on the Destiny. So the inappropriate uses of someone else's body will continue further into the season, and while each episode might not wrap up neatly, I'm sure that this will be developed and explored.</p><p></p><p>Your comparison to BSG is apt. They are not the same shows by a long shot, but SGU is certainly taking more than a few pages from BSG's playbook! BSG explored some thorny ethical issues, but some of those also took long story arcs and weren't wrapped up quickly. Give this show some time and you might feel better about it!</p><p></p><p>And I hope I didn't come across as dismissive or anything like that, look at the discussion spawned! It's all good!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 4990208, member: 18182"] You're right, we see things differently! :) But that's cool, of course! Keep in mind that while we didn't see these issues fully explored in this episode, we just might as the series progresses. I guess that's where my off-hand comment about wrapping things up nicely with a bow comes from . . . in "classic" Stargate we usually didn't deal with thorny ethical issues like we see here, and when we did, they usually got "wrapped up" in one episode. This show has an obviously different tone and writing style, part of which is that the story is taking it's time to move along. Some hate this, I love it! With Telford usurping Young's command more than once, Young and Telford obviously have a history. Heck, it seems Telford has a history with several folks on Destiny! Also, Telford outranks Young (I'm pretty sure) and is acting either on direct orders or at least with implicit consent from the Pentagon. Young, at first, isn't happy with what Telford is doing, but doesn't see much that he can do about it. Note Young doesn't come out and say this, but I picked up pretty quickly in the Telford/Young body swaps before this episode. And of course on this episode, Young DID do something about Telford's abuses, he defied the Pentagon and decided to put limits on the body swapping. Young sleeping with his ex in Telford's body just happened, and Telford got an eyeful with the mini swaps during the jumps into and out of FTL. And, of course, we see Telford at her door at the end of the episode. So, I think this one is going to be dealt with. Chloe's decision to lose control and get drunk isn't nearly on the same scale as what Young did. If she had done that in my body, and I had to deal with the hangover the next day, I'd be pretty annoyed and might even say something to my superiors in the military, but overall it's a minor thing. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see any further exploration on that, especially since the scientist Chloe swapped bodies with got almost zero facetime on camera. Eli, well Eli didn't really do anything wrong with his borrowed body. So he ate some food . . . so what? What did happen was the kiss with Chloe. That takes the "love triangle" between Scott, Chloe, and Eli a bit further and I think we see some further development on that. And we haven't yet seen the events hinted at in some of the promo materials, that someone who swaps into Wray's body (who is a lesbian, which also hasn't really been explored yet) uses her body to sleep with someone on the Destiny. So the inappropriate uses of someone else's body will continue further into the season, and while each episode might not wrap up neatly, I'm sure that this will be developed and explored. Your comparison to BSG is apt. They are not the same shows by a long shot, but SGU is certainly taking more than a few pages from BSG's playbook! BSG explored some thorny ethical issues, but some of those also took long story arcs and weren't wrapped up quickly. Give this show some time and you might feel better about it! And I hope I didn't come across as dismissive or anything like that, look at the discussion spawned! It's all good! [/QUOTE]
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