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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4468226" data-attributes="member: 1003">And pre-gen only PCs? I think not.While some people may strictly play an Adventure Path without any additional campaign info or deviations from the plot, I don't think that's very common. Also, based on every poll I have seen at EN World and elsewhere, one-shot quests simply don't leave nearly as favorable an impression of the game as open-ended mini-settings like B2 and B4. As a counter example to B2/B4, the Dragonlance adventures were not nearly as well received (it was the books that made DL popular).I'm not saying one-shots are bad. I'm just saying that (according to the polls I've seen, not just IMO) they're not the best value for your gaming dollar spent. If WotC was trying to maximize the value of the Starter Kit, it would look more like B2.The starter rules don't even have to be complete or take up much room. If you quash down the formatting and exercise restraint on the fluff text I bet you could get the races down 1/2 a page and the classes (levels 1-3) down to 2 pages (1 page front & back). You could even hold back certain races and classes from the Starter Kit. The total rule-book could be 20-30 pages, leaving 40 pages for a mini-setting and 10 pages for plot-hooks and monster stats. I could rock.Ah well. Enough speculation. I will wait until we have more details and decide then whether it would make a good gift.</blockquote>