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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6317950" data-attributes="member: 7635">Haven't done a full-build yet, but I can see a few things going on at 15th level:1.) The Fighter would have six attacks, (three per action) so that would be 12d6+30 damage (or 72 total)2.) Both Evokers would be able to overchannel at least once, raising their nova attack to MAX damage. That means the pure mage could overchannel Sunburst (12d6 maxed for... 72 damage!, Con save DC 16 1/2) 3.) The M/C 2/13 Fighter/mage has to use his 7th AND his 6th level spell slot to go nova; and since there are no good nova evocation spells at 7th level (!) he opts to chain lightning twice (buring the 7th level slot, but getting no extra benefit). He overchannels once but doesn't risk twice*, so he does 60 (max 10d6) with the first bolt and 35 with the other (average of 3.5) for 95 damage. So at 15th level, he uses BOTH his high level spell slots and his AS to get 23 extra damage over his single classed buddies. Still not worried. EDIT: Forgot that 12 level evokers add their INT to evocation damage. Tack another +5 to each evocation spell. The mages are starting to pull ahead more now, but this is almost purely due to Overchannel. Without it, They are only doing 47 and 80 damage respectively in their novas) * Its a DC 15 Con save or drop to 0 hp if you use it more than once. In theory, he could do it twice and take the risk, raising his potential damage to 120 but very likely taking him out of the fight.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 6317950, member: 7635"] Haven't done a full-build yet, but I can see a few things going on at 15th level: 1.) The Fighter would have six attacks, (three per action) so that would be 12d6+30 damage (or 72 total) 2.) Both Evokers would be able to overchannel at least once, raising their nova attack to MAX damage. That means the pure mage could overchannel Sunburst (12d6 maxed for... 72 damage!, Con save DC 16 1/2) 3.) The M/C 2/13 Fighter/mage has to use his 7th AND his 6th level spell slot to go nova; and since there are no good nova evocation spells at 7th level (!) he opts to chain lightning twice (buring the 7th level slot, but getting no extra benefit). He overchannels once but doesn't risk twice*, so he does 60 (max 10d6) with the first bolt and 35 with the other (average of 3.5) for 95 damage. So at 15th level, he uses BOTH his high level spell slots and his AS to get 23 extra damage over his single classed buddies. Still not worried. EDIT: Forgot that 12 level evokers add their INT to evocation damage. Tack another +5 to each evocation spell. The mages are starting to pull ahead more now, but this is almost purely due to Overchannel. Without it, They are only doing 47 and 80 damage respectively in their novas) * Its a DC 15 Con save or drop to 0 hp if you use it more than once. In theory, he could do it twice and take the risk, raising his potential damage to 120 but very likely taking him out of the fight. [/QUOTE]

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