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<blockquote data-quote="Psikerlord#" data-source="post: 6318253" data-attributes="member: 93321"><p>Forum maths is about as reliable as my guesstimations based on 20 yrs playing experience, there are too many variables to take into account, and working by averages or medians ignores potential max damage, which is also important. These kinds of math examples are at best a very rough guidepost (and at worst completely misleading, depending on what is being discussed). </p><p></p><p>I guarantee the char op builds will all be using action surge, either straight fighter or MC fighter - there is no getting around that adding a double action to a combat is going to be one of the biggest bonuses to damage the game offers. It will dwarf any kind of item static bonus, weapon dice bonus, etc because it picks up and multiplies all these things by however many attacks you have.</p><p></p><p>Your example is clouded by using dailies, the FM could use at will damage spells and still reap the bonus action surge gives. Anyways... I am weary of arguing about it, if you dont agree there is a problem, then we dont agree. Come December when the main 3 books have released, perhaps there will be a fix for it, or perhaps the char op boards will find worse OP talents to use, who knows?</p><p></p><p>In any case, i am still optimistic overall for 5e... there is lots to like overall.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psikerlord#, post: 6318253, member: 93321"] Forum maths is about as reliable as my guesstimations based on 20 yrs playing experience, there are too many variables to take into account, and working by averages or medians ignores potential max damage, which is also important. These kinds of math examples are at best a very rough guidepost (and at worst completely misleading, depending on what is being discussed). I guarantee the char op builds will all be using action surge, either straight fighter or MC fighter - there is no getting around that adding a double action to a combat is going to be one of the biggest bonuses to damage the game offers. It will dwarf any kind of item static bonus, weapon dice bonus, etc because it picks up and multiplies all these things by however many attacks you have. Your example is clouded by using dailies, the FM could use at will damage spells and still reap the bonus action surge gives. Anyways... I am weary of arguing about it, if you dont agree there is a problem, then we dont agree. Come December when the main 3 books have released, perhaps there will be a fix for it, or perhaps the char op boards will find worse OP talents to use, who knows? In any case, i am still optimistic overall for 5e... there is lots to like overall. [/QUOTE]
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