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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6312362" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Which was my point. The game really should be designed such that you <em>won't</em> get both related proficiencies automatically. My #2 option was the way to do that-- so that if a Background had both Climber's Kit and Athletics in their lists... that the lists had extra options to select from that you didn't <em>have</em> to get both (and thereby double up.)</p><p></p><p>Although personally... I would much prefer #1-- there be no tools for things you already have skills for. I mean... why a Climber's Kit? What's so special about climbing that they need their own kit but other uses of Athletics don't? Why not a Swimming kit (aka scuba or snorkeling gear?) Why don't they have that to buy? And why is cake make-up so important that they have a special Tool proficiency for it, but a forensics kit doesn't exist for those people who want to make special Perception checks to search but don't have the skill? It seemed like the selected parts of certain skills that got their own special tool proficiency was awfully arbitrary. Climbing, disguise and stabilizing creatures for some reason deserved tools... but all the other things you can do with skills for some reason didn't. That doesn't seem like a logical or reasonable design goal to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6312362, member: 7006"] Which was my point. The game really should be designed such that you [I]won't[/I] get both related proficiencies automatically. My #2 option was the way to do that-- so that if a Background had both Climber's Kit and Athletics in their lists... that the lists had extra options to select from that you didn't [I]have[/I] to get both (and thereby double up.) Although personally... I would much prefer #1-- there be no tools for things you already have skills for. I mean... why a Climber's Kit? What's so special about climbing that they need their own kit but other uses of Athletics don't? Why not a Swimming kit (aka scuba or snorkeling gear?) Why don't they have that to buy? And why is cake make-up so important that they have a special Tool proficiency for it, but a forensics kit doesn't exist for those people who want to make special Perception checks to search but don't have the skill? It seemed like the selected parts of certain skills that got their own special tool proficiency was awfully arbitrary. Climbing, disguise and stabilizing creatures for some reason deserved tools... but all the other things you can do with skills for some reason didn't. That doesn't seem like a logical or reasonable design goal to me. [/QUOTE]
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