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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6317646" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I have no idea why you'd see all Drow as "misunderstood". Just because someone isn't "Genetically Evil", but rather does evil because of their upbringing and worldview, doesn't make them "misunderstood". On the contrary, in a way it makes them more truly Evil, I'd say.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there's much mileage in Drow (or any intelligent, choice-making species) being "Genetically Evil" - inherently more paranoid or aggressive, and thus easier for them to become Evil? Sure. Even Drizzt is somewhat paranoid and aggressive (and Zaknafien definitely is!). But learning, choice-making, capable of change, and yet "born evil"? I think that's both boring, de-values Good and leads to incredibly dark places full of justified genocide and other stuff that starts getting into "Who is even the bad guys?" territory?</p><p></p><p>I suspect you've read the Sojourn trilogy, from what you're saying, and it's explicit there that in the FR the potential for compassion, decency, goodness and so on is carefully beaten and stripped from the Drow by an elaborate Lloth-managed system (almost micro-managed by Lloth, in fact). I'm not saying that, without that system, they'd be Good - they wouldn't, any more than humans without their gods. But they would be a different people, and not an inherently Evil one, nor inherently uncivilized. Again, to be clear, an adult Drow who has been successfully stripped of compassion, decency, and so on, who acts in an Evil way and so on is not "misunderstood" - they are Evil. So nothing about what I'm saying requires "misunderstood". It just requires "not basically a mandate for genocide". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> A best a pitiable thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They look pretty green in 4E. I mean, not sure what colour you'd call that...</p><p></p><p>I don't think you have any basis for "they have always made their own weapons" beyond your opinion. Scavenged weapons is precisely what I suggested. 2E Goblins are not stocky in any art I've seen of them, and I wouldn't use the term for 1E, either, myself, but that's all subjective.</p><p></p><p>I note that these current goblins are neither yellow nor red, either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6317646, member: 18"] I have no idea why you'd see all Drow as "misunderstood". Just because someone isn't "Genetically Evil", but rather does evil because of their upbringing and worldview, doesn't make them "misunderstood". On the contrary, in a way it makes them more truly Evil, I'd say. I don't think there's much mileage in Drow (or any intelligent, choice-making species) being "Genetically Evil" - inherently more paranoid or aggressive, and thus easier for them to become Evil? Sure. Even Drizzt is somewhat paranoid and aggressive (and Zaknafien definitely is!). But learning, choice-making, capable of change, and yet "born evil"? I think that's both boring, de-values Good and leads to incredibly dark places full of justified genocide and other stuff that starts getting into "Who is even the bad guys?" territory? I suspect you've read the Sojourn trilogy, from what you're saying, and it's explicit there that in the FR the potential for compassion, decency, goodness and so on is carefully beaten and stripped from the Drow by an elaborate Lloth-managed system (almost micro-managed by Lloth, in fact). I'm not saying that, without that system, they'd be Good - they wouldn't, any more than humans without their gods. But they would be a different people, and not an inherently Evil one, nor inherently uncivilized. Again, to be clear, an adult Drow who has been successfully stripped of compassion, decency, and so on, who acts in an Evil way and so on is not "misunderstood" - they are Evil. So nothing about what I'm saying requires "misunderstood". It just requires "not basically a mandate for genocide". :) A best a pitiable thing. They look pretty green in 4E. I mean, not sure what colour you'd call that... I don't think you have any basis for "they have always made their own weapons" beyond your opinion. Scavenged weapons is precisely what I suggested. 2E Goblins are not stocky in any art I've seen of them, and I wouldn't use the term for 1E, either, myself, but that's all subjective. I note that these current goblins are neither yellow nor red, either. [/QUOTE]
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