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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6317973" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Right, so..craoy internet connection at the pub due to a thunderstorm ATE my initial post/response. A true work of literary genius. I mourn its [and your] loss.</p><p></p><p>Long post short, after many viewings, much consideration and a review of the posts of this thread...this artwork gets a BIG thumbs UP from me.</p><p></p><p>Yes. I would have gone a bit more green in the skin tones...but for hiding in woodlands/swamps...it makes a lot of sense. </p><p></p><p>Yes. The ears are bordering on WoW crazy awfulness. But juuuust short. On elves? I'd be appopleptic. But on goblins, it works.</p><p></p><p>Yes. The armor/weapons are a bit wonky. But c'mon. This is the 2014 edition. Look at the cultural norms for us now. The "crude" pointy bits and pounding marks are exactly what I would expect...vs. a group of elves and their polished finely delicately crafted type of weapons.</p><p></p><p>Yes. THey are a bit more muscular than I would have liked/expected. But for the leader its fine. There was also (iirc) the odd comment in the 1e MM about goblins having rarities of "giantism"...so you could have a 5-6' tall beefy champion-freak...but still "all Goblin." THat would have been fine. If they go scrawny in future works. Good.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line. Our individual imaginations are our own. If you want more green goblins or cruder weapons/equipment or scrawn-ier (is that a word?) then have them be that! It's YOUR imagination! It's YOUR game!</p><p></p><p>The wonder...and it is "wonder"...of this is image are:</p><p>1) You get to see the monsters being how they are..."doing what they do." A lone goblin on a field of white is not going to ambush your party. This group? I totally see it.</p><p></p><p>2) The "vista". There is no plain of white. You are in a scene in the ["a possible"] world. THere's background. There's foreground. This scene is "happening" somewhere.</p><p></p><p>3) There are adventurers in this scene. They aren't the focus. WHich is fine. But the "players" are there. They are in this situation that is playing out.</p><p></p><p>4) HOW is it playing out? What is that goblin whispering? What is his leader snarling back? Is there a storm coming? Will they wait for more darkness or go back to their tribe for reinforcements? Are there more adventurers off frame? THere is a STORY happening here...and we, the viewers, get to WONDER and use our IMAGINATION as to WHAT that story is! </p><p></p><p>This is, in the end, a HUGE success as a D&D image.</p><p></p><p>Also, like it, hate it, want things different...for me, I can not dispute the "cartoony" nay-sayers. That's a matter of personal taste and preference. For me, personally, cartoony or comic-booky is EXACTLY what I want. I'm playing a fantasy creative game of imagination...not photojournalism. Whatever you think of the "Style", it can not be disputed that the artist of this work put in a lot of thought and effort into and is truly talented...making a TRIUMPH of a D&D picture that does its job...that is, BEING a D&D picture that makes you look and wonder and come up with the story of what's going on. </p><p></p><p>Have to say, 4 thumbs up (I'm borrowing a couple of friend's thumbs they aren't using). Love it. It's what D&D art has been missing and needed for a while now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6317973, member: 92511"] Right, so..craoy internet connection at the pub due to a thunderstorm ATE my initial post/response. A true work of literary genius. I mourn its [and your] loss. Long post short, after many viewings, much consideration and a review of the posts of this thread...this artwork gets a BIG thumbs UP from me. Yes. I would have gone a bit more green in the skin tones...but for hiding in woodlands/swamps...it makes a lot of sense. Yes. The ears are bordering on WoW crazy awfulness. But juuuust short. On elves? I'd be appopleptic. But on goblins, it works. Yes. The armor/weapons are a bit wonky. But c'mon. This is the 2014 edition. Look at the cultural norms for us now. The "crude" pointy bits and pounding marks are exactly what I would expect...vs. a group of elves and their polished finely delicately crafted type of weapons. Yes. THey are a bit more muscular than I would have liked/expected. But for the leader its fine. There was also (iirc) the odd comment in the 1e MM about goblins having rarities of "giantism"...so you could have a 5-6' tall beefy champion-freak...but still "all Goblin." THat would have been fine. If they go scrawny in future works. Good. Bottom line. Our individual imaginations are our own. If you want more green goblins or cruder weapons/equipment or scrawn-ier (is that a word?) then have them be that! It's YOUR imagination! It's YOUR game! The wonder...and it is "wonder"...of this is image are: 1) You get to see the monsters being how they are..."doing what they do." A lone goblin on a field of white is not going to ambush your party. This group? I totally see it. 2) The "vista". There is no plain of white. You are in a scene in the ["a possible"] world. THere's background. There's foreground. This scene is "happening" somewhere. 3) There are adventurers in this scene. They aren't the focus. WHich is fine. But the "players" are there. They are in this situation that is playing out. 4) HOW is it playing out? What is that goblin whispering? What is his leader snarling back? Is there a storm coming? Will they wait for more darkness or go back to their tribe for reinforcements? Are there more adventurers off frame? THere is a STORY happening here...and we, the viewers, get to WONDER and use our IMAGINATION as to WHAT that story is! This is, in the end, a HUGE success as a D&D image. Also, like it, hate it, want things different...for me, I can not dispute the "cartoony" nay-sayers. That's a matter of personal taste and preference. For me, personally, cartoony or comic-booky is EXACTLY what I want. I'm playing a fantasy creative game of imagination...not photojournalism. Whatever you think of the "Style", it can not be disputed that the artist of this work put in a lot of thought and effort into and is truly talented...making a TRIUMPH of a D&D picture that does its job...that is, BEING a D&D picture that makes you look and wonder and come up with the story of what's going on. Have to say, 4 thumbs up (I'm borrowing a couple of friend's thumbs they aren't using). Love it. It's what D&D art has been missing and needed for a while now. [/QUOTE]
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