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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lazybones" data-source="post: 9458806" data-attributes="member: 143">I enjoyed Icespire, but I would not recommend it to a new DM or new players. Some of the starter mission options are absolutely lethal to first level characters, especially if players don't know which tactics to use (e.g., the ochre jellies, the manticore). Some of the middle quests are also super dangerous, like the lycanthropes that can each hurl a lightning bolt. A veteran DM can compensate for this, but a new one is likely to see a TPK if they run the module as designed.I think that LMOP is overall more balanced, but I'm sure the number of TPKs that have resulted from the goblin ambush and the fight with the bugbear in the first dungeon run into the many thousands. Haven't played Stormwreck Isle, but I do think the initial encounter is best of the lot for newbies.</blockquote>