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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 1623175" data-attributes="member: 16019">Hmm... you may have a point. However, as for the toughness, I specifically chose White Dragons because they're the weakest and the least intelligent of the dragons. The one I chose was a CR 4, I think- and with an intelligence of 6 I figured there could be some obvious flaws in its battle plans. However, if that's too tough, I could always use a Wyrmling white dragon, which is a CR 3.Anyway, I originally wanted there to be goblins for sure, and I wanted there to be some sort of interesting monster that leads/controls them... I wanted the big bad guy, especially, to be something they'd remember and (hopefully) fear for days to come, but I didn't want to kill them. Dragons caught my eye, and I figured one of the weaker ones could make sense (considering it wouldn't be beyond any dragon to force a bunch of weaker creatures into servitude). Also, aside from White dragons being the weakest and therefore the best for a 1st-level party, there's a possible later plot device I'm hoping to use involving the frozen-over shrine it's inhabiting.As for killing a baby, I doubt they'd mind- the group has a very Rogue-ish and every-man-for-himself attitude that I don't think would interfere with them killing an obviously dangerous evil dragon, even if it's very young. However, I realize your point. Upon second thought, I don't really think a white dragon perfectly fits my original idea, but it still fits- plus, in one of my earlier campaigns, I remember a character complaining that he had been playing Dungeons and Dragons for several months, and he had never encountered either. So, hey, they'd encounter a dragon for sure. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-P" title="Stick out tongue    :-P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-P" />Anyway, your advice is appreciated. If anyone knows of a better monster to throw at a group of low-level PCs, I'm all ears.</blockquote>

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